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Back to sheet metal work. At this stage, it's easy for two people to flip it over. Sure beats working from underneath.

 

fantastic work on that westfield. one could guess your aeronautic background after perusing the precise rivet alignments, perfect bends in the brake lines and so on. another thing i've noticed about you mile high guys: you think not only analytically, but sequentially (for example, the handbrake issue). must come from all the checkoffs you guys perform before every wheels-up. but one point of disagreement regarding that "adequate" total of 144 mazda bhp in your featherweight seven: it will not be enough. it will never be enough. this point will be corroborated by everyone. challenge me. you will see.

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fantastic work on that westfield. one could guess your aeronautic background after perusing the precise rivet alignments, perfect bends in the brake lines and so on. another thing i've noticed about you mile high guys: you think not only analytically, but sequentially (for example, the handbrake issue).

 

Thanks for the accolades, but the handbrake early installation came from Flyin' Miata's build diary and the straight rows of rivets come from the predrilled holes in the precut sheets from Westfield. There are other issues with the kit, (It's not perfect!) but I'll get to them later.

Dan

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. . . . but one point of disagreement regarding that "adequate" total of 144 mazda bhp in your featherweight seven: it will not be enough. it will never be enough. this point will be corroborated by everyone. challenge me. you will see.

 

I'll admit, HP is addictive. But truly, it's the inherent 'fun' factor of such a car that really shines. HP aside, the pure joy of a unique driving experience will be what causes Dan to continually pick bugs from between his teeth. :D

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I love it, arguing about what is more fun the 0.1% or the 0.01% of car performance. I imagine even fred flinstone would have a fun "drive".

 

Having said that, I'm questioning if 144x2 is enough.

 

Daniel

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So is your car one in the silly photo in front of the really big dump truck? I love that photo.

 

Yes, that's my fun machine. It's got the 1.9 Ford cvh and I can get in all sorts of trouble with just that little engine on board...glad you like the pic, thank you.

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Still in February, here are 2 more photos of the chassis upon its side. The first shows some of the Miata wiring loom. There's a lot of tape to remove. The second photo shows the fuel lines going in. There are 3 lines that run fore/aft, the fuel supply from the rear-mounted pump, the return from the regulator, and the charcoal can.

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I'm amazed at the difference in a Westfield build vs a Caterham build. Yours is truly a "build". The Caterham assembly is more like putting together a model than a build. I could never have done what you're doing. That's going to be a great car as you obviously have the skill and patience to do it right. Great job! I hope Dave Kirk is taking notes for his upcoming build. :seeya:

 

Tom

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I'm amazed at the difference in a Westfield build vs a Caterham build. Yours is truly a "build". The Caterham assembly is more like putting together a model than a build. I could never have done what you're doing. That's going to be a great car as you obviously have the skill and patience to do it right. Great job! I hope Dave Kirk is taking notes for his upcoming build. :seeya:

 

Tom

 

I've been watching this build and some of the others happening over at the Westfield forum. It's cool to see the different ways some folks are handling the running of brake and fuel lines.

 

I'm told my kit should arrive here in Montana at the end of the month and then the build will begin. I have my engine and trans nearly ready to drop in place and fully inspected and it looks like it should run well and make some good numbers.

 

I can't wait..........

 

dave

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I'm amazed at the difference in a Westfield build vs a Caterham build. Yours is truly a "build". The Caterham assembly is more like putting together a model than a build. I could never have done what you're doing. That's going to be a great car as you obviously have the skill and patience to do it right. Great job! I hope Dave Kirk is taking notes for his upcoming build. :seeya:

 

Tom

Yeah, the 7 family seems to have an entire spectrum of build/buy choices. On one end is the Locost where you build everything and design a lot yourself. On the other end are turnkey cars. I think I found the middle ground that suits me best. Here's a similar angle shot with the brake and fuel lines done. Pop rivets and 'P' clips both supplied with the kit. You can just barely see the pedal box mounted. And speaking of the pedal box, it comes nicely assembled with an aluminum AP Racing clutch master. Too bad the location is wrong. Maybe it fits the S2000 donor, but with the Mazda clutch slave, the master needs to move up an inch to get the correct force & stroke. The 2nd photo shows it moved.

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Nice log. Need to ask a favor. Can you post a few photos of the westfield Miata front wheel wings. I made my own and have had issues with them coming lose.

 

What I am trying to understand is how they built the brackets to bolt to the hub and hold on the wings

 

Anyone else has photos please share :)

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Nice log. Need to ask a favor. Can you post a few photos of the westfield Miata front wheel wings. I made my own and have had issues with them coming lose.

 

What I am trying to understand is how they built the brackets to bolt to the hub and hold on the wings

 

Anyone else has photos please share :)

I should be able to post photos tomorrow night.

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Nice log. Need to ask a favor. Can you post a few photos of the westfield Miata front wheel wings. I made my own and have had issues with them coming lose.

 

What I am trying to understand is how they built the brackets to bolt to the hub and hold on the wings

 

Anyone else has photos please share :)

 

Yes, WF uses the Miata front & rear uprights, and yes, they supply nice fender stays. Sorry about the black on black, but I derusted my uprights and painted them. The upper attach is a flat bar running between the two stay tubes. The bar mounts to the underside of the upper ball joint. The lower attach picks up the lower caliper bolt. Quite the nice installation.

Dan

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I'm traveling so no continuous net access. The next build step was to hang the front & rear suspension. The WF and Mazda parts work well together with few questions or problems. Of course it helped that I got a phone call from this guy: http://www.ronmathis.com/ He said he was bored on Sunday and did I want any help on my WF project? I couldn't turn that down and I have no worries the steering rack and suspension went on right. :) The only problem was some of the rear A-arm bushings needed to be reamed to fit the attach bolts. No problem as it could be done with a hand pistol drill.

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Ron Mathis seems like an amazingly knowledgeable guy. Surprised he dropped out of nowhere to help (Does he have a cape?:)). I will probably buy his book.

 

Suspension looks beautiful, btw.

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Suspension looks beautiful, btw.

 

Thanks, I have about 110 hours logged on donor removal and refurbishment stuff, like derusting and painting the uprights and grinding off the forging flash. The rear bearings sounded a bit unhappy so I took the rear uprights to an independent car repair shop to have new bearings pressed in. "They're off my '97 Miata" was good enough for them. The Mazda dealership refused the job, saying they only do that if I bring the car in.

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The next step was to drop the engine/trans into the chassis. This part went fast and painless. WF supplies motor mounts and the only problem was that the cleft side hassis mount holes were off about 1/2 inch. So I just drilled another set.

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Here's the left side mount showing the extra hole pattern. And the right side that just dropped into place. The WF only has 3 inches of ground clearance to the oil pan, so I added the two 1/4 inch spacers on each side. That adds 1/2 inch without needing any other mods. I made the spacers from some 2024-T3 scrap I found. Plenty overkill on the strength but not so corrosion resistant. So out came the yellow Rust-Oleum and the airbrush again.

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