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Congratulations, Manshoon! It's all downhill from here. Gherkin, I think they've changed the way they do it. The DMV told me the certificate will come in the mail from Sacramento. What the DMV gave me was my registration application back with the sequence number written at the top, a couple of other numbers, and a date stamp. They also gave me an operating permit good through February. So I've insured the car and I'm driving it legally right now. Well, not right now because I'm at the computer, but you know. My experience was, the CHP assigned the VIN. It's permanent, it's on the car, and it's on all the printed forms I got back from the DMV. Next stop is the BAR, but I'm waiting until I get my actual certificate until I do that. Manshoon, did you get a temporary operating permit?

There are well-meaning people in government. There are very intelligent people in government. There are even very capable people in government. But there's also way too much money, and no concerns about return on investment, and that brings out the worst. I've seen it too many times.

I expect the forward motion of the truck pulled the front of the Stalker sideways a few feet before the truck tipped and the Stalker came to rest.

I don't think we're in danger of having healthcare rationed in this country, at least no more than it already is. If they need more money, they'll find a way to get it. They always do. I'm curious though about a $20 million cancer cure. Who gets that money?

IMO the problem with health care in this country is that too many people who aren't care givers are making too much money off of it. Now they've managed to suck even more money into the system. It's politics, power, and money under the guise of altruism. I just dont think health care reform is ever going to happen here.

To be fair, the government has plenty of websites that work just fine. But this was too big and too visible. And too lucrative. It brought back memories of the California DMV fiasco 25 years ago, a big project to overhaul their computer systems. I was in the business at the time and everyone was telling us to go to Sacramento. It was like the second Gold Rush. I knew a lot of people who joined the project as contractors, and it drew mostly the worst of the worst. It was doomed from the start. $80 million later they threw in the towel. Not saying that's what happened with the ACA website, and the website isn't Obamacare, but it doesn't bode well.

Okay, I was wrong again. The state of California is NOT out of SB100 certificates of sequence for 2013. I just got mine today. If they're giving them out in order, there's still a couple hundred left.

MoPho, that's not Internet advice. There's a huge difference between "this was my experience" and "this is how it is".

I feel your pain, Manshoon. What makes it worse is everyone saying how easy SB100 is. Here's what worked for me. DMV form, REG 124. The DMV filled out the DMV USE ONLY section with "NEEDS VIN/SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION". The CHP filled out the rest when they assigned me a VIN.

Sean, I'm not the argumentative type, and in fact I was my usual pleasant self when I first arrived at the DMV, and for at least a couple of hours after that. But when a million forum posts have told you that you MUST get your SPCNS certificate before going to the CHP, and clerks at the DMV who know nothing about the SB100 program are reading from a book and telling me that under no circumstances will they call Sacramento until I've gotten a VIN assigned by the CHP, it gets a little frustrating. To say the least. In retrospect, even though they knew almost nothing about SB100, they were right and I was wrong. Which is what I get for trusting anything on the Internet.

Yes, it's the BAR that determines if and how your car will be registered under SB100, not the DMV. Things are definitely different now, or maybe it's just in my area. The CHP and DMV both insisted it was CHP first, then SPCNS certificate. Maybe they decided they were giving out too many certificates to people who couldn't prove they owned their car.

Mopho, that might've been true once, but no longer. I just got my VIN plate tacked on by the CHP this morning. They verified proof of ownership, signed off on the paperwork, riveted on a VIN plate, and told me to visit the DMV about getting an SPCNS certificate of sequence. Which I likely won't get until January. Last July I went to multiple DMVs to get a SPCNS. I argued with half a dozen clerks, yelled at several supervisors, and no matter how much I begged and pleaded and told them they were wrong, they flat out refused to get me a certificate of sequence and insisted I first had to go to the CHP. Which I did today. And the CHP confirmed everything the DMV told me. I've read similar accounts from other people arguing with the DMV, so apparently there's a lot of misinformation about this going around.

Where did you hear that? My local DMV says 500. Admittedly they're pretty clueless, but I haven't seen a higher number anywhere.

I'm going for my CHP inspection Sunday. Not much chance of an SB100 certificate this year, they were up to 470 in July, but I'll be at the DMV on Jan 2 of next year.

They'll wait until they pull you over to do that.