Bonjo2 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Rather than widen and lengthen my stalker fenders... Looking for Caterham/Birkin/Locost rear fenders that are 12" wide or slightly wider. I would like to ditch the 7" rear wheels and go with 10-12" wide wheels. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Recently replaced green fiber glass fenders and nose cone with carbon fiber. Rear fenders have holes drilled for fender guards. Have installed fender guards on the carbon fiber. which I am using....will sell as a set or just the rear fenders. Bob Virginia Beach 757 463-4904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Rather than widen and lengthen my stalker fenders... Looking for Caterham/Birkin/Locost rear fenders that are 12" wide or slightly wider. I would like to ditch the 7" rear wheels and go with 10-12" wide wheels. Thanks Try David at super7cars@shaw.ca Are you planning on using your car at the track? if so I would caution you on the wider tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxCoyote Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Are you planning on using your car at the track? if so I would caution you on the wider tyres. Stalkers (with race rubber) use 10" wide wheels as the standard on the track of for AutoX. I am reasonably sure that is why he wants the wider fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The 7 as you know understeers badly, so increasing rear grip with wider tyres unless something drastic has been done to the front end, will make the car worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxCoyote Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The 7 as you know understeers badly, so increasing rear grip with wider tyres unless something drastic has been done to the front end, will make the car worse. Respectfully disagree Terry. Stalkers oversteer if anything. Maybe it has to do with the solid rear axle or the additional weight of the V6? I run 10" wide wheels all around and slightly wider tires in the rear (22") vs front (20"). I do not experience oversteer when autocrossing unless I am driving way over the limit. Throttle induced oversteer on the other hand is always available should one want it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 My reference points are for Caterhams, so clearly I do not know what I'm talking about when it comes to the Stalker. If you put 10 inch rears on a Caterham it would be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTTTCAR Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 A Stalker is dead neutral at speed also. but with all the torque they have it is easy to throttle steer.......love it. Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) I come from a more purest position. My belief is that the 7 should have a light weight screamer, rather than a big heavy motor. One only has to look at the modern Race Car, high HP, low torque. Maybe I'm just stuck in my ways. In my opinion the Stalker has moved away from Chapman's original agenda. :boxing:. Waiting to get shot down. Edited January 2, 2012 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTTTCAR Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Terry I agree.... the Stalker moves away from most 7s... but I have grown to love the torque. Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxCoyote Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I prefer to look at is a case of best of both worlds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Agreed, so when are you going to buy a Caterham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Terry, I also think the rear tire width has a lot to do with how strong your motor is. I run Michelin slicks that are 23/57-13 on the rear and 20/54-13 on the front. The car is very neutral. I've got a Cosworth Formula Atlantic motor in mine putting out 295 brake HP. I'm following the recommendations of Joachim Westermann, owner of MOG-Racing and a respected German Caterham racer. Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Terry, I also think the rear tire width has a lot to do with how strong your motor is. I run Michelin slicks that are 23/57-13 on the rear and 20/54-13 on the front. The car is very neutral. I've got a Cosworth Formula Atlantic motor in mine putting out 295 brake HP. I'm following the recommendations of Joachim Westermann, owner of MOG-Racing and a respected German Caterham racer. Karl I have just sold a 1990 Caterham S3 with a Steve Jennings Atlantic motor, very quick car, yet docile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxCoyote Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Mine has a slightly warmed over L67 that puts out about 320hp but the real joy is the supercharger that gives instant torque right off idle. Once learned it is a real weapon as it reduces the number of gear changes required. Caterhams are great, I'd love to own one at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTTTCAR Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I love a light nimble car . It is the best on the track or auto crossing and just a blast to drive on a blat, but in order to reach the top end speeds and acceleration of say a race prepared Zo6 or Viper in a 7??. The cost to do this in most 7s goes way up and the reliability goes way down. To not get run over when on the track with a bunch of Posche turbos and Vipers, a 550hp (almost stock Ls7) in a 1500 lb. Stalker seems like an excellent solution to me ….and mine is almost finished. I have only driven one 500 hp Stalker and I found it to b a mind altering experience. Resulting in….. of course…. I want one!! I, like Russ also would like to own a Caterham but from my obviously warped point of view the one I drove needed more H.P. Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjo2 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 The sevens I drove had a tone of power (over 200) and seemed to exaggerate every throttle off or throttle on with rear rotation and only pushed when entering too hot and braking late. Not easy cars to drive very fast, but fun as hell. Maybe the no front swaybar and stiff springs helped front bite and kept the rear loose. Having only driven the stalker about 20 miles, I cannot really say, but have to go with what I read of other stalker guys.. I've not corner weighted or even messed with tire pressure yet. I do know that from idle at very low speed in 2nd and 3rd, a 1/2 throttle blip makes tires break loose with ease. I think for street, spacers and a 225 DOT legal tire in order out back. On track I am leaning towards a 15x10 + 275/45 15 rear DOT A6 r compound until I get things sorted enough to run slicks. My goal is 450 Bph and not more than 1650lbs curb weight (for starters). My car is really more a sprint car or modified than a lotus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxCoyote Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 The sevens I drove had a tone of power (over 200) and seemed to exaggerate every throttle off or throttle on with rear rotation and only pushed when entering too hot and braking late. Not easy cars to drive very fast, but fun as hell. Maybe the no front swaybar and stiff springs helped front bite and kept the rear loose. Exactly correct Bonjo 2. Stalkers are harder to drive than a momentum car (or 7) but once (if) mastered are so much more rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTTTCAR Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 A Stalker is definitely NOT a momentum car at 3.09 lb./HP For street i have R888 305/19 rear and 245/18 0n the front.. I widened the stock rear fenders an inch or two and put them on the front. They are a perfect fit for the 245/18s. To fit 12" wide 19" ZO6 wheels on the back required building a whole new set of fenders and 4 1/4" Al. spacers just for street use. One S-10 model has an 8" wider rear axle but haven't found one yet (at the right price). May end up widening a stock one to get rid of the spacers. I still have a set of stock fenders in case i don't like the result and want to switch back. (not likly unless it really screws the handling). For track I will use 17" wheels to improve the variety of racing tires that are available. Still don't know about the width yet...waiting for results from the factory tests. Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy g Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I can make you fenders out of aluminum in any width,See my work at Blastolene.com. call me 541 474-1071 Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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