Mandurath Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Kinda a repost from locostusa, but a bunch from here don't go there that I know of, and a bunch from here to race alot so may know rules that may help. As I am planning on my car being a Jack of All trades, Ace of none, Rallyx is in its future also. Hoping to make the GRM 2008 or if something goes wrong 2009, followed by joining the WCM guys in a shot at One Lap if the car lives through the other stuff. But, have hit a small stumbling block that hopefully can be removed. In sending Emails to find out whats needed, as I am going to pretty much leave my car set up one way and race it as it is, so cages, etc will be permanent. No contact yet from my local steward, but hopefully that will be in the near future. Have been told that some do not think its doable. Below is an email from Will Perry, who, judging by the website and things done understands his stuff. His response to an email i sent outlining my car and trying to find out what i need to make it legal in Rallyx. In the 2007 rally cross rules, it is open to any production based, fixed top car or cars with factory hardtops.Your car does not meet either one of these requirements.With a full cage, I don't think you car is not safe, it just does not fit the rules.If you have any other questions you may want to contact David Brooks. He is the SE division steward. His contact information is listed on www.sedivrallycross.com. Thanks Will Now, below are the rules for Rallyx 6.1 ELIGIBLE VEHICLES A Rally Cross event is open to any fixed-roof production based vehicle (including convertibles with a factory hardtop attached, targa-types with factory panel in place, t-tops with factory panels in place) that can pass safety inspection. If the Event Chairman after consultation with the Event Safety Steward determines at his discretion that a vehicle cannot safely negotiate the course, it may be excluded. And the rules for Solo 18.1 MODIFIED PRODUCTION-BASED CARS Classes DM and EM contain production-based cars which are permitted additional modifications beyond those allowed in Prepared classes CP through GP. Models must meet the requirements of Section 13 (first paragraph), be specifically listed in Appendix A, or be otherwise recognized by the SEB. The Panoz Roadster is eligible for competition in DM and EM as a modified production-based car. The following chassis are approved as clones of the Lotus 7 and are eligible for competition in DM and EM as modified production-based cars: Caterham Super 7, Birken, Locost 7, Rotus Seven, Stalker V6, Laminar Concepts Viking, Westfield, WCM Ultralite, Sabre Seven. Which leaves us to the hard top, which was a factory option on the series 4 models (Pics are in another thread, the yellow car). Not to mention the Donk. Not sure if the fiberpair ltd tops for the series one and two would count (Pics below). I am sure that like being E-mod for solo, it will be in M2 but thats ok as it will be heavy enough, with hopefully enough power to give an account of itself. Its the driver that will be lacking, not the car. Seeing as the car did have a factory hard top available and is listed as a legal car, I think this should get me past this. But, ya never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 solid fiberglass top should not be difficult to make. the biggest hurdle is raising the gorund clearance and getting the suspension back in spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Heheh, though probably not the correct way, in the LC way, I am using bigger (taller) tires to raise it up. The cars i have seen are not as high up as i thought they would be. Changing the tires and the shock settings is about all i am hoping to do between different types. As long as it doesn't perform badly, ill be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 Well, struck out. Guess time to head to the SCCA rally forums and see how many different ways i can be told no. Good thing its something all teenage boys heard often and learned to understand. :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I use my car alot like you are talking about. I autox, road race, drag race, cruise in it. I leave the car the same for all events. I might adjust tire pressure but thats about it. Now it can certainly be set up better for each event to perfom bit better but I dont have the $$ to have four different sets of tires, shocks etc so I just run it like it is. As long as I have fun that is my main goal. If I happen to win then that is a really nice bonus. I have won a few events with this approach :jester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 I'll have 2 sets, though I probably have less invested in them than most in one set. My street set, which will, like yours be all purpose, and my rally set, which will also be all purpose, but a more agressive tread pattern, but I will still drive to the track either way and drive home. Well, got another response on the SCCA forums, looks like round 3 has started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, was told can probably play, but not for points or trophies, which is all i wanted anyway. Check the Rally Lotus under the rally section on the SCCA forums for the info in interested. I doubt if this were a real lotus or higher end LSIS i would do it, but looks fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locostv8 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 FWIW I believe #37 is a one off special built by Chapmans engineer for his own use. It is also a FHC. Dosn't Caterham offer a hard top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 Not that I could find. Lots of soft tops, but thats ok, a decent top won't be hard to make, will it be pretty.....uh.....well......, form follows function right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locostv8 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 In an attempt to gain traction I am trying to allow room for a retrofit of AWD. One thing that came up was the need for a body that was AWD initialy. FWIW the Jeep YJ/TJ is a 93" wheelbase and the current JK is 96" both of which came with a hardtop and have flat sided body very easy to replicate and a track width similar to a 7. The JK with a bit of thought put into the splitter and brake ducts between the splitter and fender could probably be a bit more aero than a 7 and the replica body draped over a 7 minus the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Kind of a side question, but how exactly is a car considered a "Production" car? Does it have to be so many made, or made by a certain manufacturer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 SCCA normally considers a a car a Production vehicle if a 1000+ were made in a single year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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