Outlaw M-16 Calipers

[scannon]

I've heard these calipers are a direct bolt in replacement for Caterham front brakes. Can anyone confirm that?

 

Anyone have any direct experience with them, any pros or cons to doing an upgrade from the Caterham brakes?

 

Thanks,

Skip

[pksurveyor]

I had problem with the rear brake lockup on my Caterham SV on track days. I changed to Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads for the front brakes as recommended by the dealer. Now the lock up problem is solved.

[Birkin42]

Hi Skip,

 

I don't have a Caterham so I can't confirm if they will fit.

I have a catalog from Outlaw that shows the M-16 so I thought I'd pass on some info in case it would be of some help.

It looks like it is designed as a direct replacement for an OEM Ford caliper with a 3.25" pitch on the hole pattern.

They offer 2 versions, 1 for 0.50" wide disc's and one for 0.81" wide disc's.

They are not hand specific so only 1 P/N for both left and right.

They use 1.50" pistons for all 4 locations.

They use Performance Friction 754.16 pads or Hawk HB237 pads. They both seem to offer 4 compound choices.

 

I would think that Caterham offers a number of brake options for the various versions of their car over time. Not sure if they all used the same mounting pattern for the caliper.

Too bad they didn't use a 3.5" pitch on the mounting bolts as this is pretty common in North America and you'd have a ton of choices of caliper makes and models to pick from.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Jack

[pksurveyor]

The upgrade brake used by Caterham is the AP 4 pots with slotted disk.

[Boxologist]

unfortunately the AP and Alcon upgrades have no dustboots around the pistons. thats why i'm considering teh HiSpec brake upgrade even though the front rotor remains a solid disk instead of a vented unit.

[scannon]

unfortunately the AP and Alcon upgrades have no dustboots around the pistons. thats why i'm considering teh HiSpec brake upgrade even though the front rotor remains a solid disk instead of a vented unit.

 

When I put Wilwood brakes on my Miata people told me that they would never last without the dust boots. They've been on there for about 7 years and 70k hard miles, 5k of those at the track. Never a problem and I haven't done anything but change pads. I would not have a problem running them on the Caterham as well.

[Birkin42]

Birkins come stock with Outlaw 2800 calipers which don't have dust boots.

Almost all sport bikes (motorcycles) come with calipers without dust boots and they never seem to have a problem.

I think as long as you are using the car in gerenally good conditions on the road and track, you will be fine. If you intend to drive it on muddy roads or in the winter, then the dust boots would be a must.

Wilwood does offer some of their calipers with an option for dust boots. They don't offer any with a 3.25" pitch that I'm aware of though.