Plumbing identification

[bball7754]

Hoping the collective wisdom of this forum can solve my plumbing challenge.  I had the Crossflow in my Mallock rebuilt, and the engine builder did not replace the fitting on the side of the engine block and one of the fittings on the front mounted oil pump with what I left him.  So, I want to replace them with what matches the existing female hose ends. 

 

Think I have the block figured out.  I need a 1/4” BSP male/-8 AN male fitting, and am confident on that one.  The female hose end definitely is -8, and BSP seems correct for the engine block side.

 

Titan no longer makes the front mount oil pumps, and can’t seem to find any literature that specifies the port size.  But, it seems to be 3/8” BSP.

 

It’s the female hose end that really has me stumped.  It’s a convex female.  A spare male/male adapter kicking around my garage seems to fit, but that style of fitting seems to be either NPTxNPT, BSPxBSP, or BSPxNPT.  The female hose end is not chamfered, but is flat, so it’s not AN?  Could it be metric?  Or should I just replace the hose, and use a male/male 3/8”BSP/-8 AN with a -8 AN hose barb?

 

All these fittings were on the car when I purchased it.  I’m hardly Carroll Smith to begin with, and I HATE plumbing. 

 

Any and all thoughts are appreciated.

 

First pic is the hose fitting in question, and the incorrect fitting in the pump as returned by the engine builder.

 

Fourth pic is the fitting with a male/male adapter I had lying around that seemed to fit the hose end.  
 

Last pic is the incorrect fitting removed from the pump.

Edited March 27, 2022 by bball7754

[7Westfield]

Some misc bits I have...1/2 BSP  probably from a Titan FF over the years

the center one would screw into a Titan side mount pump, using the washer to seal

titan side mount pumps use 1/2 BSP, I would assume the front ones are the same

if that blue fitting you have measures .81 thread OD, non tapered, it's 1/2 BSP

personally, I'd go aeroquip, just because you can get it everywhere

Pegasus has some fittings/adapters

           this may help---

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/document.asp?DocID=TECH00098

 

is this the car I've seen at Blackhawk?

[bball7754]

Thanks.  I had printed out a plumbing size sheet from BAT, and it seemed like the pump port was 3/8”, although I expected it to be 1/2”.  So you think the hose end is also BSP?

This is me at Blackhawk in 2020, so probably. 😊

That was right before the S2000 went flying by me.
 

Edited March 28, 2022 by bball7754

[7Westfield]

8 hours ago, bball7754 said:

So you think the hose end is also BSP?

that's my guess

 

8 hours ago, bball7754 said:

This is me at Blackhawk in 2020, so probably

sure enough     -see you in June?

I'll be maintaining a Titan

 

[bball7754]

Yes, the plan is to be at Blackhawk in June.  Actually, the plan is to make the entire VSCDA season, which would be a first.  My ownership of the Mallock has been, ummm….challenging.  So, we’ll see how the season goes.  Right now, I just want to get it all back together for Gingerman.

 

Steve