Info on WCM radiators

[slngsht]

Can someone tell me what the dimensions are?

Are they custom or from a production car?

Also, where are the inlet / outlet located?

And, how much they cost?

[powderbrake]

Mazda:

I measured my WCM radiator.

 

22 wide X 12.5 to 13 tall tanks,

so the core is about 12 1/2 X 18

2 1/4 core thickness, two row

cross flow

inlet upper left.

outlet lower left

It might be a Griffin, but I'm not sure, I can't find a name on it, as it is installed.

the 2 1/4 core matches a Griffin 1"" tube size two row radiator with 3"tanks

the part number is 65763, and it is signed by the welder and two assemblers

 

Maybe Brian or some other WCM guy can fill in more info.

[rv-4mike]

Mazda,

 

Here's a couple of pictures. Brian buys as much as possible off the shelf to keep the cost down. This is an AFCO radiator part number 80107N and Summit sells it for $255.95.

 

If you need a custom radiator to fit your car I'd highly recommend C&R Racing in Indianapolis,IN. They made the radiator for my airplane and its exactly what I wanted and was pretty reasonable too.

 

Mike Wills

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1485467107_DSCN0750 (Small).JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1376551230_DSCN0749 (Small).JPG

[JohnK]

One radiator that was supplied with the WCM S2K is/was Griffin's Sirroco replacement/drag race item. Griffin's tech departments indicated that for an engine with the power output of a stock Honda S2000 engine, the core depth and surface area is a reasonable fit - not too big, not too small. This item is in the wrong orientation for the WCM so it is mounted upside-down in that kit. In order to do this, the mounts are sawed off and the existing fan shroud mounts are used to attach it to the chassis. Be careful about bottoming the bolts here. There was a mfg problem with at least two of these that I have first-hand experience with (self and Kevin Boultin) in that a baffle between the upper and lower tanks was mistakenly installed on the far side as well as the near/input side. This limited flow and hence cooling. It took me a while to convince Griffin that I wasn't just some dummy who had screwed up his cooling system and was trying to blame their radiator, but once that happened they were more than responsible in fixing the problem - made me an entirely new radiator, along with duplicating some welding I had already done on it. Mistakes happen and, overall, they were great to deal with. Griffin's welding is held up as an example of really fine aluminum work in at least one welding manual I've seen. Plumbed as per Carroll Smith's example, it works fine in this self-bleeding configuration.

[7evin]

I like the AFCO over the Griffin. We had issues with the Griffin.

 

It is a Scirocco Radiator. Summit or Jegs carries them.

 

If you have Q's about it let me know I can send pics of how we set ours up.

 

We run ours upside down so the inlets are on the correct side.

 

I have a spare in you need it for mock up.

 

Cheers

7evin

[slngsht]

as I'm considering what to do with my hood / scuttle / nose, I'm toying with going with a lower profile rad like the ultralite. Thanks for all the info guys. Kevin, I may take you up on that offer down the road.

[hr-k]

Resurrecting old thread, but maybe it helps someone else as well.

I am in process of getting an ownership of WCM Ultralite, the year it was marked to be built was 2004.

The radiator fan has rubbed against the core, and the radiator needs replacing. The AFCO model above has drainage plug in lower left corner in those pictures, and the current damaged radiator from car shows coolant temp sensor, and it is at upper left corner, if the inlet and outlet are on right, as shown in AFCO photo above.

Without being with the car, I'd have to ask if someone knows, is this the temp sensor for ECU, or is it for the gauge?

Would anyone know the model of the temp sensor used, and the thread type?

Would anyone know the AFCO drain plug thread type?

Will there be any other interferences than the length of the wire, if the sensor moves from one corner to another?

 

Thanks

hr-k

[powderbrake]

Referring to your picture. The water inlet is at the lower left, the outlet is at the upper left. The lower right is the drain plug.

 

I have a temp probe pushed into the fins at the lower left hand corner to run my temp controlled fan. This is where the standard Honda has a temp switch for the fan.

 

I have a temp sender in the fill Tee which feeds my dashboard temp readout.

 

I believe the ECU gets its temp info from another sensor on the engine block.

 

Jerry