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A little Ultralite S2k Help...for a new user!


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Hello, USA7’s, love your site… After doing lots of 7 research I am hooked on the S2K ultralite, I think it is exactly what I’m after. Know the problem… I live in Canada, were importing any kind on car kit is next to impossible… But I must have one! The only option I think I have is to build one from a car already registered in Canada. I have emailed Mr. Anderson about purchasing the nose and fenders only . But would like other builders input as to what they would do in this situation. What you would look for? Changes or improvement you would make?, specs?, photos of builds? Anything you think would help… thanks so much!

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I'm a little confused... when you say "build one from a car already registered in Canada", by "car" do you mean a donor, like a S2000, or another Seven?

 

You said you're asking for nose and fenders only. Are you looking to build your own frame?

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I'd be surprised if you couldn't import the parts, build it, and then get it licensed in Canadia. Usually the problem is that you can't import an already made car.

 

The exceptions are in the EU, where the UK has a pretty straightforward method of registering a self-built car. People from around the EU take their cars to the UK, license them, and then 'import' them back to their home country because of reciprocal agreements to take each others cars. There is a strong tradition in the UK of building your own vehicle so props to them for keeping up the tradition whilst others around them go bonkers and crush creativity and industry.

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I'd be surprised if you couldn't import the parts, build it, and then get it licensed in Canadia. Usually the problem is that you can't import an already made car.

 

The exceptions are in the EU, where the UK has a pretty straightforward method of registering a self-built car. People from around the EU take their cars to the UK, license them, and then 'import' them back to their home country because of reciprocal agreements to take each others cars. There is a strong tradition in the UK of building your own vehicle so props to them for keeping up the tradition whilst others around them go bonkers and crush creativity and industry.

 

This is the link to transport Canada's kit car rules. http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp2436/rs200804/menu.htm#amateur1

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looks like it is entirely possible -- you just have to do it carefully -- read also the FAQ in kitcars which is helpful. I wrote a longer response twice but some silly timeout error keeps screwing it up so I got tired an won't do it again (kind of stupid):

 

 

Amateur building of kit cars from imported starter kits

 

Is a starter kit a car or parts? Shipment contents provide useful clues, and each import is considered on its own merits. TC may ask for a complete parts list (not including attachment hardware).

In a parts shipment/starter kit, important systems such as the fuel system, the brake system, the power train and the suspension system are not included.

When these systems are completely absent, the kit will likely pass Customs if:

 

  • the kit is not assembled (the body and frame are separate);
  • the wiring harness, steering system and interior parts are not installed (with the possible exception of the windshield, some trim and the instrument panel).

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The S2k frame is purpose built for the S2000 engine and transmission, so the hood and fenders won't get you very far. You really need the frame, then you could get the engine and transmission locally. The engine, trans, and computer are the only S2000 parts in the car. Everything else you could source in Canada or the USA, but Brian Anderson can give you the whole package.

 

I will not comment on the Canadian import situation, other than tallk to other Canadians and to people who have brought cars or parts into canada.

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I have been talking with mr. Anderson via email. he says he has had over 20 individuals contact him re. Ultralites and not one has been able to get one to Canada..? (They may just not want to work at it, but who knows?)

 

The S2k frame is purpose built for the S2000 engine and transmission, so the hood and fenders won't get you very far. You really need the frame, then you could get the engine and transmission locally. The engine, trans, and computer are the only S2000 parts in the car. Everything else you could source in Canada or the USA, but Brian Anderson can give you the whole package.

 

I will not comment on the Canadian import situation, other than tallk to other Canadians and to people who have brought cars or parts into canada.

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The regs you pointed me to clearly show that the body and frame can be imported,so that should be no problem. The only thing remaining is suspension. brakes. engine. wiring, and lights. Of those, only the suspensions pieces might pose a bit of a problem. If you can get to that point you can either have a Canadian supplier order them for you, or you could have them fabbed -- hundreds have done their own. Everything else could VERY likely be sourced in Canada. I think there is a tenancy for people not to actually find out how something CAN be done and just not put forth the effort. Why down here in AMeriKa, people will lie, cheat and, yes even steal to get their cars 'legally' on the road.

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