Toyo T1R tires

[Ut7owner]

I'm looking for some street tires that will likely work year round except for those really nasty days. Has anyone tried the Toyo T1R tires?

 

These will actually be used on my Europa not on my Birkin Seven. But the Europa and the Seven are pretty similar in weight and power (1350lbs plus driver and with rear mounted Ford Zetec engine in the Europa).

 

So, has anyone used the T1R's?

[scannon]

I've had them on my Miata for a number of years and I hate them. They are not nearly as grippy as the T1S that preceded them. They also flat spot badly from sitting and are slow to round out when driven. They are also useless in any level of snow or in really cold weather. They do fairly well in the wet until you get standing water.

 

I can't seem to wear them out and the size I use on that car is no longer available in any performance tire.

[Davemk1]

I had a set on a Birkin years ago and did not like them at all. They were smooth and quiet while cruising and that is the only thing I liked about them. The wonderful crisp turn-in the car had on most any other tire was gone and they gave the car a vague and crappy feel as if they were very low on air (regardless of the pressure used).

 

For me they were a quick way to take the 'sport' out of a sports car. I'll never buy them again.

 

dave

 

P.S. let's see a photo of the Europa. I love those cars.

[xcarguy]

Might try the Toyo R1R.

[Ut7owner]

I've not looked at the R1R's but I'll do that right after I this!

 

Thanks for the replies on the T1R's. It's not what I wanted to hear, but exactly what I needed to know. They are off the list!

 

One of the reasons that I picked on the T1R's is they come in 195/45/15. That is the size I'm hoping to use on the front with a 205/50/15 on the rear. I've only found a couple of tires that give me that option. The other one is yokohama S.Drive. Does anyone have any experience with the S.Drive tires?

 

As to the Europa, we had some problems in the paint booth, so it's not ready for prime time yet. Here are a couple of shots of the good areas. From the rear you can see the Zetec, the rear flares (actually a totally modified fender shape) and the new scoops and fuel fill and the colors of the stripes on the nose.

[slomove]

Just happened to buy a set of R1R in your sizes from Tire Rack, see invoice clip below. Not sure if there is much difference between 195/45 and 195/50. I also had T1R and while rather good in the rain and quiet I agree they sometimes just made the steering wheel vibrate, no matter how balanced. Maybe what Skip said they got flat spotted after sitting a while. After that I switched to Bridgestone RE11. No good in rain, otherwise O.K. but did not last long. Let's see how the R1R are, never tried them.

 

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Order Date: 12/15/2014 Via: UPS Ground From: McCarran, NV http://www.tirerack.com/images/cart/tabs/tab_products_ordered.gif Qty

2 195/50R-15 Toyo Proxes R1R $117.00 --> $234.00

2 205/50R-15 Toyo Proxes R1R $123.00 --> $246.00

 

 

Shipping: $61.48 Order Total Including Shipping: $541.48

Edited December 17, 2014 by slomove

[Davemk1]

I have the R1R's on my Westfield and I like them very much. Solid in the rain, smooth and not too loud. The grip is vey good and turn-in nice and crisp. I like them a lot.

 

They so far have about 2800 miles on them and are wearing very well and even. Unless they wear much quicker than expected I'd buy them again.

 

dave

[xcarguy]

FWIW, here is a vodeo of my car in the rain at NJMP. I didn't have a set of dedicated rain tires, so I put my on the Toyo R1R's for the session and the tires performed very well . . . . Driver performance is another story :jester: :

 

Edited December 17, 2014 by xcarguy