Gas Attack!

[BobDrye]

Try this link!

 

http://www.osampump.com/

 

 

:ack:

[slngsht]

:rofl: that was awesome

[locostv8]

Keep in m ind that at least 60% of the oil comes from this country.

[slngsht]

oil is a commodity, like anything else traded on free markets. doesn't really matter where it comes from. Demand is higher than ever due to developing countries, and the mighty $ is in the tank. That results in $5 a gallon gas.

[powderbrake]

A small drop in oil futures right after Pres Bush's elimination of the executive order banning offshore drilling is indicative of what will happen if we drill for oil here in the USA. Congress needs to get off their asses and lifty their restrictions.

 

I believe drilling off both costs , and in Anwar will send the signal to the futures markets that we are "Mad as hell, and we are not going to take it anymore"

 

I'm doing my part. On a 5400 mile road trip to Seattle and back, I averaged 27.3 mpg on my vette, typically at 80mph. In slower traffic, I got nearly 30mpg. Answer? buy more pushrod V8's in light cars. ( This is not a suck-up to slngsht)

 

All together now........ " I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.....(and) "The government should guard the shores, deliver the mail, and get the hell out of my life"

 

:rant:

[powderbrake]

oops , double post, don't know how to delete

[BobDrye]

I recently read an exposition of the "we can't drill our way out of this crisis" at woodpile report. It goes like this:

 

""Plans to put in crops next year have been abandoned because food is scarce now," a Dept. of Agriculture spokesman said. "This is one problem we can't plant our way out of." She pointed to promising initiatives like stomach-staples, phasing out food-guzzling bipeds and switching to alternative sources of calories such as wood chips, termites and recycled street sweepings. "Tragically," she added, "death by starvation hits the poor and minorities the hardest."

Spread it around.

 

 

Meet Joe American:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[BobDrye]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[locostv8]

I believe that a cost of opening up other oil fields should be a Large tarrif on exported oil to insure that domestic oil is used first to solve domestic oil needs.

[gjslutz]

I can agree with all that is posted here. But as we know there are many issues that are at the root of this. Talk to anyone who has seen 3rd world drilling, and manufacturing operations.

 

We enter into unfair trade agreements with 3rd world countries, to chase low cost labor. Look at the original NAFTA agreement. A few years latter Mexico devalued the PASO by 50%, for those who were asleep it was a 100% tariff in sheep’s cloths. They and others have no OSHA, EPA, ACLU, NITSA unfair Labor Unions, and over abundance of greedy lawyers, and other added US chains around the necks of employers.

 

Yes we need to protect workers, and take care of the planet, improve safety, treat workers properly, have representation for “reasonable claims”, and so on. On all of these that were good ideas have got out of hand, and we get around all of these by sending the jobs to 3rd world countries that have none of this?

 

Now that we have exported manufacturing operations off shore we have reduced the GNP. Trade balance?

 

We can’t compete with this, nor would I want to, but are expected to. Look to the link to see what we are up against. I would still be in jail for this!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_IoWdNfvFw

 

[Mondo]

I agree Gislutz. I really don't see how a global economy helps our society in the long run. It basically will lower our standard of living until we reach some common denominator (and that may not happen with other government's goals). Uncontrolled capitolism is just as bad as over-regulation.

 

Not everyone can be entrepeneurs, professionals or investors (no money to invest). Where have all our manufacturing workers gone? I think most are eeking a living in sales/service. There has to be family supporting salary jobs for these people.

 

Sooner or later a lot of people won't be able to afford the cheap products we get from other countries, especially with the dollar going in the dumps.

 

My 2 cents...

[MHKflyer52]

I agree Gislutz. I really don't see how a global economy helps our society in the long run. It basically will lower our standard of living until we reach some common denominator (and that may not happen with other government's goals). Uncontrolled capitolism is just as bad as over-regulation.

 

Not everyone can be entrepeneurs, professionals or investors (no money to invest). Where have all our manufacturing workers gone? I think most are eeking a living in sales/service. There has to be family supporting salary jobs for these people.

 

Sooner or later a lot of people won't be able to afford the cheap products we get from other countries, especially with the dollar going in the dumps.

 

My 2 cents...

 

I agree with Mondo that "Sooner or later a lot of people won't be able to afford the cheap products we get from other countries, especially with the dollar going in the dumps."

That is why the 99 cent stores are doing so well across the country.....it is ashamed.....maybe our system needs to get back to the time when we actually trained our children in school to have a basic understanding of a trade (woodshop, metal shop, etc.) and then if they have the ability (smarts) to attend college and actually get a degree in something that has a real demand in today’s world things might change.

 

Mabe our government needs to set some goals for our countrys energy requirements...look at what happened when the Kennedy administration set the goal of putting a man on the moon with Technology and the advances that made.

 

Just my belief an opinion.

 

[MoPho]

I say we wait until we really need it before we tap our own resources. Lets use up "their" oil first or we're REALLY going to be in trouble in the future.

 

I am not much of an environmentalist, but it is really easy for some of you to suggest off shore drilling when you don't actually live near the shore. As it is, there is quite a few oil rigs off the coast of California and I can tell you it is rather disturbing to be sitting on a beautiful piece of beach or coastline looking at oil rigs lined up one after the other

 

 

 

[BobDrye]

I say we wait until we really need it before we tap our own resources. Lets use up "their" oil first or we're REALLY going to be in trouble in the future.

 

I am not much of an environmentalist, but it is really easy for some of you to suggest off shore drilling when you don't actually live near the shore. As it is, there is quite a few oil rigs off the coast of California and I can tell you it is rather disturbing to be sitting on a beautiful piece of beach or coastline looking at oil rigs lined up one after the other

 

 

 

 

The average american family uses the equivalent of 26 barrels of oil in energy every year. We use 10 for food, 9 to power our house, and only 7 for family transportation. We have yet to see the full impact of over $100 per barrel oil.

 

 

:banghead:

[BobDrye]

I say we wait until we really need it before we tap our own resources. Lets use up "their" oil first or we're REALLY going to be in trouble in the future.

 

I am not much of an environmentalist, but it is really easy for some of you to suggest off shore drilling when you don't actually live near the shore. As it is, there is quite a few oil rigs off the coast of California and I can tell you it is rather disturbing to be sitting on a beautiful piece of beach or coastline looking at oil rigs lined up one after the other

 

 

 

 

A Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. analyst said in a report there is a lot of offshore crude that can be produced relatively quickly. The problem: It is located off California, where politicians have built careers opposing new drilling.

 

 

The Minerals Management Service said that of the estimated 18 billion barrels of oil in off-limits coastal areas, almost 10 billion are off the coast of California.

 

 

"California could actually start producing new oil within a year if the moratorium were lifted," the Sanford C. Bernstein report said, because the oil is under shallow water, has been explored and drilling platforms have been there since before the moratoria.

 

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/656035063_avatar_6301.gif

[MoPho]

 

 

The average american family uses the equivalent of 26 barrels of oil in energy every year. We use 10 for food, 9 to power our house, and only 7 for family transportation. We have yet to see the full impact of over $100 per barrel oil.

 

 

:banghead:

 

 

Perhaps, but someday, oil is going to be $300 or more a barrel

 

[BobDrye]

 

 

Perhaps, but someday, oil is going to be $300 or more a barrel

 

I would like to see an energy plan that includes incentives for other forms of energy. I do not want to see our standard of living go down. Why can't it be a win, win situation?

 

:ack:

[MoPho]

 

I would like to see an energy plan that includes incentives for other forms of energy. I do not want to see our standard of living go down. Why can't it be a win, win situation?

 

:ack:

 

 

Of course, but what you are suggesting is just a temporary "fix" that could possibly leave us in a really bad position in the future. The current situation is really not that bad just yet (people are just whining about it because no one likes change) that it is worth tapping what we may really need later, timing is everything

 

Even if we find alternative energy sources, we still need oil to create many petroleum based products.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mondo]

If you look closely, in the backround.... I live next to an oilwell. Just wish I had some mineral rights;) Oh, I fixed that gap in the windshield too

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/69938348_motorcycle gear 014.jpg

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1636398655_onionmagazine 1.jpg

[BobDrye]

Many of the products that we use every day are based in oil, but that doesn't mean that we couldn't use other things like soy beans or so. I just think that we should not be myopic and put our heads in the sand. In any race someone wins, why not America?