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[Deman USA]

The SR20DET is here in America under the Nissan 240SX model. It was in the Nissan Sentra FWD model also in the early 90's. Finding parts and having people work on them is no problem what so ever. You will be able to find the same amount of parts as you would for any Honda motor. You can even take it to your nearest Nissan dealer and have them work on the car. I will be sending you pictures of the build process rv-4mike, later on today, and will be more than happy to send pictures upon request to anybody else that is interested.

 

 

[rv-4mike]

Dino,

 

 

 

Thanks. Looking forward to getting those build pictures. I was on your site again this morning for a bit. I know I saw reference previously to what you use for donor parts (uprights/spindles, brakes, diff, etc...) but for the life of me I couldnt find it this morning.

 

 

 

I'll do a little more looking and web surfing for more info on the Nissan engine.

 

 

 

Now I have a new quandry. Car engine or bike engine? Cant get over how cool that car sounds in the video clip on your website! Decisions...

[Deman USA]

rv-4mike,

 

 

 

To answer your question about which path to take, if your looking to have a 7 that you can drive on the street, enjoy on the weekends, or have fun at the track, the Nissan is the way to go. Now if your looking to do just tracking, then the busa is for you. Let me know when you recive the pictures later on tonight.

 

 

 

Thanks, Dino

 

 

[BusaLoco]

What's wrong with a Busa on the streets? http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/images/emoticons/biggrin5.gif

[scannon]

I will be sending you pictures of the build process rv-4mike, later on today, and will be more than happy to send pictures upon request to anybody else that is interested.

 

 

 

 

I'd like to see those too, can you post a link to them?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Skip

[slngsht]

What's wrong with a Busa on the streets? http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/images/emoticons/biggrin5.gif

 

 

 

BusaLoco and LocostV8 may not see eye to eye on this issue http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/images/emoticons/biggrinjester.gif

[Deman USA]

There is nothing wrong with the busa motor on the street, except of the major lose of torque compared to the Nissan motor, and a much louder exhaust. When your going from street light to street light, you'll need torque. When your going on a a track, and around corners, you wont need as much torque since your revving so high.

 

If there are anymore questions, feel free to ask me.

 

 

 

Thanks, Dino

[locostv8]

What's wrong with a Busa on the streets? http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/images/emoticons/biggrin5.gif

 

 

 

BusaLoco and LocostV8 may not see eye to eye on this issue http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/images/emoticons/biggrinjester.gif

 

 

 

torque

 

COSTlocostv82006-12-23 16:57:07

[BusaLoco]

My Deman SR7 weighs 985 lbs and with the 180 HP busa I have found that I've got all the torque I need. In any event, in my experience I seem to get from light to light OK.   ...   Let's just see now, yes that's right ...   0 - 60 in 3.48 secs.   ...   Yup, that should get me from light to light just fine, thank you very much!

 

 

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_183046_Busa_in_Garage.jpgBusaLoco2006-12-23 18:39:12

[PAULDEMAN]

Here are some teasers of the SR27 in the build process.

 

 

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_190904_Deman_USA_011_s.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_191000_Deman_USA_017_s.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_191051_Deman_USA_020_s.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_191209_Deman_USA_021_s.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_191336_Deman_USA_010_s.JPG

[scannon]

Is that a Miata differential, half shafts and rear brakes in there? Any other Miata parts used?

 

 

 

Skip

[BusaLoco]

I've seen that chassis somewhere before.   ...   hmmmm.

[PAULDEMAN]

Yes that is a miata rear end. Deman is switching over to miata parts primarily because they are lighter and are easily available. British American Motorsport, or B.A.M. for short, are the ones who are developing and building these SR27's along with Deman. These pictures are courtesy of Seth Patterson, one of the onwers of B.A.M., who is building these cars. B.A.M. has been restoring and building rare classics and exotics such as Ferrari and Porsche for over 14 years. Combinding the talent behind Deman and B.A.M. will make the SR27 something truely amazing.

[BusaLoco]

 

 

 

 

This is the "TBird" diffs that Daniel Mann at Deman used on his amazing Turbo Busa SR7.

 

 

 

As you can see the Diff is a bit of overkill even for the mighty Turbo Busa.

 

 

 

[/img]http://www.usa7s.com/forum/uploads/20061223_221730_Web_Busa_picks_.jpgBusaLoco2006-12-24 06:40:53

[WestTexasS2K]

Welcome RV-4 Mike. I was in similiar mode when I started looking at the 7. I was from a hotrodding background as well. I was a little unsure of the 7 at first. I had just finished a 5 year build of a 77 280z with a big block chevy with six speed and the works. (It is on the hybridz.org site under the photo gallery it is orange and is the most viewed car on the site for the last two years). Anyway I had seen the Ultralite in a magazine and was passing by Lancaster Tx and decided to check them out. I stopped in the shop and talked to Brian Anderson the owner. We visited for a few hours as he was finishing some work on a car. He asked if I would like a test ride? I jumped at the chance and have never been the same. It was one of the fastest cars I have been in, And I have been in some pretty quick cars.

 

 

 

The Texas sevens fest was the next day and they invited me out to see all the cars. Luckily I was able to get a ride in the Ultralite on the track. I was impressed beyond belief what that car was capable of. So soon as I got home I put the Z up for sell to buy an Ultralite kit. I don't regret the decision for a second. The Ultralite kit comes alot more complete than the Stalker which by the way is a very fast in the supercharged version. I completed my kit in about 150 hours. I had talked to Dennis Brunton at R&G this year he said their car took about 400 hrs to finish. Stalker kit requires several trips tp the salvage yard to source parts then you have to clean, paint, rebuild some of the pieces you get. The reliability of the Honda engine in the Ultralite cant be touched IMHO. I have put 8K miles on the car this year with over 2k miles of track time. The only thing I have had to do with the engine is change the oil. It still has the same plugs it came with from the junk yard.

 

 

 

The Birkin and Catherham are nice cars but are considerably narrower than the Ultralite or Stalker.

 

The Ztec powered cars run about the same money and you end up with about 70 horses less than the Ultralite or Super Stalker. The finish on any of the cars can be as plush or as spares as your heart desires.

 

 

 

The Ultralite has a little diffrent styling than the other 7s. It has a shorter nose and has a bit of a wedge shape to it and the cowl bumps on the hood.   Others have the longer nose and have a little less shape to it. I prefered the looks of the Ultralite more than the others, but to a purist they are a bigger departure from the original.

 

 

 

I do alot of DE weekends and it is consistantly one of the fastest cars on the track with 220 wear street tires running with cars with full slicks and you still pass them on a regular basis. Best of all when you come of the track just fill it up with gas check tire pressure and go do it again while everyone else does repairs. I won all three events at Run and Gun this year in prepared class and was 2 seconds faster than the SuperStalker in my class. I also ran the Cannonball Runs 1 Lap of America and placed 31st out of 88 cars and I was the cheapest car in the field by a 30K dollars.

 

 

 

Parts for the U.S built cars seem to be more readily available than the Euro built cars.

 

 

 

There are several Ultralite in CA. Brian at World Class should be able to give you a few names.

 

 

 

I know my comments are biased to the Ultralite because I have one and love it. I have seen Birkins, Catherham, Locost, Stalkers all in person and feel I still got the right car for me. I liked the experience so much I am building another one.

[rv-4mike]

Thanks for the input WestTexas. I'm decided. My deposit will go out to Brian tomorrow.

 

 

 

I agree with you on the looks. Its what drew me to the Ultralight in the first place. I prefer the look to the original 7. I just hope it looks as good in person.

[Deman USA]

rv-4mike, reading what you write, it sounds like you want a looker, and a performer. You'll be very impressed with the SR27. If you could hold off with your impulse to pick-up an Ultralite for a couple of weeks, you will be able to compare the Ultralite to the all new High-Performer Deman SR27. Trust me, you'll be happy.

 

Dino,Deman USA

[rv-4mike]

Dino,

 

 

 

You are right in your description of what I want. The Ultralite really was my first choice going in, though I admit I really like what I see of your cars on your website. But...

 

 

 

I've been checking out the Ultralite for a couple of years. Not only does it get my vote for looks and engineering, but it has an established track record.

 

 

 

I like the engine choice. I like Hondas.

 

 

 

Under other circumstances I'd wait, but WCM is offering the Ultralight in kit form until 1 Jan. Not clear when/if the opportunity would come up again to get a kit. I dont want to miss this opportunity.

 

 

 

Best of luck to you with the SR27.