Canadian 7 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have a 1988 Westfield SE. Here is a pic of the front suspension. Is it standard Cortina? I want to add the Westfield wide track, will it bolt right in? http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/vipergts-r/DF5D20EA-6CC6-40CE-ACF7-81FD59E36C0B-2269-000000E8D1095F77.jpg Thanks, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Can't really tell from that angle, but you don't have a standard upper control arm. Yours is fully adjustable with inner rod ends, which is a nice upgrade. Here is a picture I found online of the Cortina upright. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/Pistonheadz/Hotrod/rodrebuild017.jpg -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 2 more pics: http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/vipergts-r/EB25557A-C50B-4C73-A094-EBE20FB9511B-2269-000000E8D86A7FDD.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/vipergts-r/6EBBEF5A-2213-4257-BD09-DCD616DFC173-2269-000000E8DEF527A2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost7018 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Almost looks like a British Ford Escort mk2 or maybe a Cortina. The lower ball joint looks strange though compared to mine. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's Cortina uprights. But this looks like a prelit set up which had s different bottom wishbone but I believe interchangeable with later ones. Check out the WSCC forum on the UK. Lots of good stuff there. I will dig out pics of my later setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yes my car is pre-lit. Here is one more pic with the wheel turned, shows better. http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/vipergts-r/th_6C7FB59A-4242-4D52-874A-1BBC862F9DB3-125-00000000DF138F09.jpg Since I am going to change to wide track, would it be beneficial to change other front end components at the same time - uprights, hubs, etc.? To a more modern setup. Thanks, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The standard uprights are actually pretty good so no real value changing them newest filed do balky ones but don't save much. Definitely change the hubs for Ali ones as the weight saving is considerable. Rally Design inn the UK did some great colored anodized units. They also do a nice Wilwood brake caliper conversion kit too but that is probably cheaper to buy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sorry about the spellings. Posting from my phone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 I do all my postings from iPad or iPhone also - don't even use my computer anymore. I wish this forum would allow you to edit your posts from these devices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 According to Westfield, the alloy uprights have slightly revised Ackerman geometry, but I've yet to get definitive feedback from anyone if there's a noticeable difference from behind the wheel. The weight savings is only ~1lb per side, and if you are running cycle wings, you'll also need to buy different mounting brackets, so not great bang for your buck. Alloy hubs are a different story. If you have the budget, I'd also suggest looking at alloy 4-pot calipers. Switching to alloy hubs and Outlaw M16 calipers shaved off 16lb of unsprung weight from my car. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Took a while to find one but here is a pic of the front end of my Westfield. http://www.flickr.com/photos/25013566@N06/8590304452/ Link if embedded not working - In summary: > Gold anodised alloy hubs > Very thin discs (not great on the road but this is a hillclimb car) > Track rod ends converted to spherical bearings > Upper wishbone conversion for spherical bearings and twice as much camber adjustment (although your setup gives more plus Caster adjustment and could assist Ackerman adjustment too) > Wilwood alloy calipers > Shocks are Gaz adjustables When considering widetrack, I remember reading there was little value in converting an SE (narrow body) to widetrack as it can upset the balance. My suggestion would be to reduce unsprung weight with this kind of setup and have everything carefully set-up. The difference is found in the setup, not the components. Westfield's generally suffer from bump steer too and I had that removed with some adjustment to the height of the steering rack. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Thank you for the responses so far! Any comments on these: http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=11815 As far as wide track, I have all season tires on it now, so if I go with the wide track setup and lose some handling, I will gain it back when I put some Avons or Toyo R888s on it! I don't like the narrow stance that my car has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danilo Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yup.. sure looks Locost /after Court action Westyfield. Cortina or Ford Escort Upright. Foolish lower A Arm design where the shock's force vector.. does not.. line up with the lower balljoint, etc, etc. But Hey! some still buy 'em. Truly a crazy mixed up world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Wow, drinking on a weeknight - lol. My car is a 1988 pre-lit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 The Rally Design setup looks pretty good when combined with the hubs and Wilwoods. The exchange rate is good right now so go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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