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Sept 29, 2007 - AutoX ; Riverhead Raceway NYR SCCA


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relatively good day for me. getting much better. the new allignment helped alot. Snake Bit passenger wings show some fiberglass damage from some cones. i creamed a few (3 or 4) one run, and clipped one on my 2nd to last run which may be the cause of the rear chip. best clean run was my last with my codriver (instructor), which was 1 1/2 sec behind FTD, ASP M3 on slicks. codriver,Bo , after pooching his first two runs, was able to get to a tenth of a second off FTD. my 2nd to last run was my fastest, though dirty (32.1), 1 sec off the FTD.

 

unfortunately, this was probably the last event on the track as 2 cars went to the wall. the first was an experienced member who sometimes helps out to he extent of event chair on occasion. smacked the front passenger side of his wrx wagon just beyond the point where they had tyres. the 2nd was a novice in a SM 240sx (swapped) that somehow lost it going into the finish. completed his run, but took several cone penalties after the timer. he was lucky and spun his front into a tyre wall. only a cracked aftermarket fiberglas bumper. no one was hurt in either situation.

 

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inside rear of the front wing.

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produced some serious enamel cracking.

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stock bolts now using some faucet repair washers to expand the contact area.

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put the old Prisoner wheels with allseasons (5 year old avon zv1's) back on as no events for a few weeks and i'd to take some more tread off these till get new tyres for them.

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Jon, I'm still trying to figure out how you hit that part of the wing with a cone? It looks like its the rearmost bottom edge of your left rear fender. Did you run over a cone and it hit it on the out? Or were your spinning? :D Tom

 

Jon, BTW that's an easy fix with a little fiberglass and resin. Al's carbon is stronger but not as easy to repair or replace. After I ripped the right one off the second time. I paid $200 a wing for each new one. The new ones now have the lights one them with quick disconnects for the lights and are for the road only. Had them 3M clear coated as well to cut down on the stone chips. Tom

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Jon-you are certainly doing a great job of convincing me to auto-x more. Not.

 

My fenders aren't coming anywhere near cones now!-Al:d

 

thats what i kept saying until i decided i wanted a crack at FTD. then ur right on those cones. at least with a decent CF, the cones may take more of the damage. sometimes, depending on how they contact, CF will slash a cone in two pieces. since putting on the new tyres, the car's paint on the sides and as u see the rear wings has taken a lot of abuse now that the tyres pick up as hold all kinds of debris. i always wanted to go CF, so may be i will sooner rather than later. though, i may have them painted and clear bra'd top AND bottom for some cushioning to rocks don't force delamination from underneath. I may keep one set for competetion and one set for show/cruise so i won't have to worry about damage like this.:willy:

 

Al, run an event in the dry with someone as ur codriver, and we'll see what u say. he'll sit in my car while someone else wails on the whore and see how hard u want to be able to drive Orange. and Orange is light, and more powerful, and brakes harder. its close to being in Franken7 on the ToTD. AutoX is not for everyone. Laura and the kids demand ur time as well. but i beleive basing an opinion of driving in the rain that one time is a wrong example. I like it. i like the regular autoXers, i like being out there all day being entertained, and with my craptastic driving i am part of the entertainment.

 

Jon, I'm still trying to figure out how you hit that part of the wing with a cone? It looks like its the rearmost bottom edge of your left rear fender. Did you run over a cone and it hit it on the out? Or were your spinning? :D Tom

 

Jon, BTW that's an easy fix with a little fiberglass and resin. Al's carbon is stronger but not as easy to repair or replace. After I ripped the right one off the second time. I paid $200 a wing for each new one. The new ones now have the lights one them with quick disconnects for the lights and are for the road only. Had them 3M clear coated as well to cut down on the stone chips. Tom

 

 

i'll have to go over the videos again to see. i wasn't spinning this day for a change. banked track is a giant cheat for a 7:hurray: i'm about 80% or where i want to be by the end of this season. have a double header the last weekend of the month and thats where i want to learn and get down my turning radiai/pin cones.

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Technically you need to have at least half of your tires covered, in D and E Mod. In A Mod you can run with out.

 

However, I've run without one on several occasions and as long as no one protests, you're probably ok. In a big event you might run into problems but in most local events, no problem. IMHO Tom

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another thing that did not happen was an experiment with autoX BRACKET RACING. the event chair was toying with it if there was time in the afternoon. i have been thinking, rather obsessing over this idea the last 36 or so hours. yeah, not much sleep, and i'll be stuck here at work for another overnight:crazy: , but the more and more i play with the setup, the more and more i like the idea.

 

drivers get paired up and the closest to their Dial In (avg, fastest,or something else) advances to the next round. some logistic issues i think i planned solutions to, but i really really think it will be a fun experiment. if u go by avg time, or what i figured, average of a participant's runs of the first heat except the first run, and thenuse that as their dial in. the fastest cars are not guarenteed to to be the best. and if don't run clean, u probably coned away the challenge. a large field could go 6-7 rounds deep!

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another thing that did not happen was an experiment with autoX BRACKET RACING. the event chair was toying with it if there was time in the afternoon. i have been thinking, rather obsessing over this idea the last 36 or so hours. yeah, not much sleep, and i'll be stuck here at work for another overnight:crazy: , but the more and more i play with the setup, the more and more i like the idea.

 

drivers get paired up and the closest to their Dial In (avg, fastest,or something else) advances to the next round. some logistic issues i think i planned solutions to, but i really really think it will be a fun experiment. if u go by avg time, or what i figured, average of a participant's runs of the first heat except the first run, and thenuse that as their dial in. the fastest cars are not guarenteed to to be the best. and if don't run clean, u probably coned away the challenge. a large field could go 6-7 rounds deep!

 

That's awesome :cool:

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