Clutch parts needed

[Christopher smith]

My mysterious clutch issues continue but have changed so I would like to put in some new parts. I have a 1500 early Cortina GT based motor hooked up to a Pinto 4 speed. The clutch set-up was apparently discontinued so am trying to source parts in the USA instead of trying to source from the UK. Not sure what the clutch parts were original to however. I have a 190 mm (7.5 inch) diameter clutch disc, the kind with the little coil springs locked in place. It has a 1 inch 23 spline configuration to fit the Pinto input shaft. The pressure plate fits the Cortina flywheel  (223 mm bolt circle and is the flat finger (12 fingers) type. Although my old parts seem to look ok, I certainly am not a clutch expert  and doi not know how to test anyway.I and wonder if I damaged them by overextending with the Saab type concentric slave cylinder/ throw out bearing and maybe had set the pedal stop wrong. I think I am on track with a Tilton slave cylinder with the 0400 series T.O. bearing but would like other new parts since pulling the engine just to test is no fun. Any ideas where to source a pressure plate much appreciated.

[EdWills]

Hi Christopher.  The major source that I know of is Burton Power in the U.K. who are Ford experts, and have tried every known combination of mixing and matching clutch parts.  They have a fairly extensive choice of clutch components, and if you get the right person to advise you, they may be able to sort out the problem. I was also going to recommend Repco in Australia, as they used to sell clutch parts for all of the Ford small engine types, but their web site is not cooperating at the moment (they may have been hacked!).  Have you also tried contacting Tilton, who really are the experts on clutches in North America? W.

[Christopher smith]

Thanks! I have already dealt with Burton on other items. It looks like they have changed their website layout. Used to be easy and spelled out pre-crossflow items. I was hoping to find a USA supplier. Tilton has lots of racing clutches but this application is for the street. I understand the racing clutches grab very abruptly and might stall in mild use. I am probably going to use their 0400 series concentric slave cylinder/T.O. bearing combo when I find the other parts like the clutch cover that might be from one of the Cortina variants.

[IamScotticus]

With a concentric slave you should be using a flat finger with round face bearing.

Can get the clutch cover from Pegasus now.

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=3558

 

No curly finger 190s anywhere. Might be easier to go to a 8". Not sure if you can keep the same ring gear and starter.  I've read you can.  You will have to find out.  

Or  switch to a release that is compatible with a flat finger cover, what the Formula Ford guys are using? They use Hewland transmissions, nor sure if the spacing are the same.

Surface and balance the FW. Get the 190 1x27 disc from Burton. If not Burton pm me, I have one.

Edited yesterday at 12:00 AM by IamScotticus

[wdb]

Have you tried Dave Bean?

[Christopher smith]

Actually it was Dave Bean where we got most of the original stuff but Ken said he can not get that sort of clutch set-up anymore. So that is why I have been looking around. I think Morgan uses that 190 mm pressure plate but a different clutch disc. I need a 1 inch , 23 spline to go on the Pinto trans input shaft.

[Christopher smith]

2 hours ago, IamScotticus said:

With a concentric slave you should be using a flat finger with round face bearing.

Can get the clutch cover from Pegasus now.

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=3558

 

No curly finger 190s anywhere. Might be easier to go to a 8". Not sure if you can keep the same ring gear and starter.  I've read you can.  You will hto find out.  

Or  switch to a release that visits compatible with a flat finger cover, what the Formula Ford guys are using? They use Hewland transmissions, nor sure if the spacing are the same.

Surface and balance the FW. Get the 190 1x27 disc from Burton. If not Burton pm me, I have one.

Thanks for the great info.

 

[IamScotticus]

6 minutes ago, Christopher smith said:

Thanks for the great info.

 

If you find a source for flat finger 190 covers in the states, please let me know. I'm wanting to stay with cable for now.  Racer Walsh are all Pinto now but they used to support 1600.  They know the parts.

Ken at Dave Bean knows a lot too.

Edited yesterday at 12:14 AM by IamScotticus