Toronto, Canada member looking for a rep. 7 (street legal) for sale.

[sevenseeker]

Hi there,

 

As the subject title states, I'm currently lookinng for a replica 7 that I could either buy in Canada or import (legally) to Canada. I've read that in order to bring kits into Canada, they must be at least 15 years old. I'd preferably like to purchase in Canada but don't seem to be having luck with my search as these cars are rarer than I had imagined. Should anyone know of a 7 for sale that is eligable for import into Canada or knows of a Canadidan seller, please let me know. I'd prefer a hayabusa powered car as I'll be using this car for 90% track usage with 10% street leisure.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

[trough doctor]

there is busa powered Deman sr7 on

toronto. kijiji .ca.

is asking $36,450. I know what you mean about the difficulty in locating a seven in Canada. Found mine in Nova Scotia:banghead:

[BusaLoco]

http://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i11/08/k/000/7b/75/7b01_20.JPG?set_id=1C4000

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-2005-Deman-SR7-Hayabusa-Powered-Lotus-Super-7-Replica-W0QQAdIdZ64212468

 

Citius 7 - Lady owned and driven since new, 2001 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX-R 1300 (180 hp) engine, New transmission in 2008, In-line sequential 6 speed gear-box, Tubular chassis, DeDion rear-end, Coil-overs, 195/205 Falken Ziex tyres, Momo steering wheel, Ignition immobilizer security system, Computerized fuel management system, Luke four-point harnesses on fiberglass race seats (extremely comfortable) with adjustable driver's seat.

 

A confident, reliable and spirited ride which will get you there and back.....endlessly.

 

Registered and plated... ready for your personal enjoyment... Brit car-club cruising... for the AutoSlalom track... or convert to a SoloSprint competition car by adding a turbo kit (250 hp) and a wet sump.

 

Built in Canada by Deman Motorsports

 

ASKING....$36,450.00.

 

 

[Ian7]

I don't know anything about this car (condition, quality, etc) but if its as nice as it looks, grab it at that price NOW!

 

Given the rarity you acknowledge, I'd be asking that much for my Kent powered Caterham.

[Birkin42]

That Deman is Dann's first car. He actually built in the UK and had it shipped into Canada. I think he got lucky getting it in without hassles.

If it different in many ways from all the other Deman's Dann's built. It has a DeDion rear end instead of twin A-arm for example.

It's been a few years since I've seen that particular 7 but it was decent. I believe the current owner has done a number of things to the car to make it more of a street car as it originally didn't have windscreen, mirrors, etc.

This car is definitely an option worth looking into.

I have heard that Deman is no longer making 7's.

 

Another option is http://www.super7cars.com/. These guys are out in BC and are primarily building turn key busa powered Caterham's if I recall correct. I don't know what the issues are with bringing in one of these from BC to ON.

 

I also know that Dick Brink from Texas Motor Works has set up Richard Wyly in Alberta as a Canadian Birkin dealer. He can be reached at glassguy100@gmail.com. I haven't talked with Richard since April and at that time he had not imported his first kits yet, though he had 3 coming in.

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Jack

[sevenseeker]

Thanks Guys, I have actually been speaking with the owner on this one but if Deman is no longer making these cars, where could get service etc? Would parts then be an issue if Deman is no longer available/ I tried calling Deman and left a VM also. I rec'd no response.

 

Thanks very much guys,

[Birkin42]

Most of the parts that would be subject to wear and tear would be from a donor vehicle. Most driveline, suspension and brake stuff on a Deman is from T-Birds though I think some of his later cars were Miata. This particular car though I'm 99% certain was built in the UK so Dan would have used some other donor parts. What these would be and how available they could make sourcing replacements inconvenient if that vehicle was not imported into NA, but not impossible. Where you will have to be more creative are the in-house made parts like the frame, body panels, some suspension parts, etc. These could be repaired or fabricated but someone with reasonable skills and equipment. Not convenient but not impossible either.

I think for a lot in the 7 community, these are par for the course.

Consider it character compared to most mass market vehicles these days that are commodity.

 

[ayseven]

As a Deman builder at the moment, I can say that many parts are simply MK. So many other parts are Miata and in my case, Nissan. The only parts hassles have been little brake connectors and things.

 

The fact is that these 7s are English cars, not Corollas or Miatas, and if you want many things, you have to send away for them, or as said, make them (working with aluminum is fun!). Back panels are very hard to find, rear fenders are difficult too. Nobody knows what you are talking about when you go looking for anything at NAPA or whatever, which is why this and other sites are so valuable.

 

British American Motorsports in Lachine, QC are the new owners of the former Deman Motorsports, and are "top blokes" as the English might say.

[sevenseeker]

Thanks again guys, very helpful you have been. I actually found a nice MK Kit in the US but due to importing laws, I cannot pick it up. Would any of yo uknow any loopholes to bring this car to Canada?

[shiva]

Thanks again guys, very helpful you have been. I actually found a nice MK Kit in the US but due to importing laws, I cannot pick it up. Would any of yo uknow any loopholes to bring this car to Canada?

 

The main rule about "kit car" "replica car" or any kind of car that isn't made by a big car company is this:

 

- No rolling chassis can be imported into canada.

 

So from there, you can always figured out how to have it dissasembled and they shipped to canada from different source.

 

ie:

Engine shipped from Mr White;

Tranny, Diff from Mr Blue;

Frame and everything else from Mr Brown;

 

From there you rebuild it at your home and have it plated as a self made car.

It's a grey area for sure, but I heard it works. One thing to be sure is to have receipt for all the major parts. Since they ask for bill of sale of each major part at the inspection part. (check for stolen goods)

 

Don't know if that helps, but still... too much an hassle I think.

 

Another way would be to buy an original Lotus seven that is more than 15 years old.

[manik]

Thanks again guys, very helpful you have been. I actually found a nice MK Kit in the US but due to importing laws, I cannot pick it up. Would any of yo uknow any loopholes to bring this car to Canada?

 

I can tell you there are no 'loopholes' regarding the importation of any vehicle or kit into Canada. Unless it is already 15 years old (or older) and registered. Otherwise, you can only import a base chassis with bodywork, which must be pre-approved by TC before it hits Canadian customs. Almost all of the cars coming into Canada presently are being imported illegally and Transport Canada does seize shipments.

 

 

tm

[Birkin42]

British American Motorsports in Lachine, QC are the new owners of the former Deman Motorsports, and are "top blokes" as the English might say.

 

Do you know if British American Motorsports have a web site up and running?

Do you have their contact info by chance?

Thanks,

 

Jack

[Birkin42]

I purchased a rolling chassis from Dennis Tobin when got out of importing/selling Birkins. I had him disassemble the chassis into numerous small assemblies and then had it all shipped as one lot from the US to Canada. It was all itemized, priced and listed as "car parts" in all the paperwork. I did not purchase or take delivery of the wheels/tires nor the shocks, but was otherwise a complete roller disassembled.

I inquired about breaking the shipment up, but since the bill of sale was all from the same source and was going to the same designation, I was told splitting it up would make no difference as Canada Customs would eventually see the history. If you can ship from different sources, that may help, but really the only thing that matters is who is listed as the seller and who is purchasing. If they are the same, there is no value in splitting up the shipments.

I had it shipped by frieght and cleared customs myself. I think this helped in that the "car parts" sat in a bonded warehouse while I went to the customs office to have the shipment cleared. It also saved a bunch of money.

In the end I had no problems bringing the "car parts" in, but as pointed out, there are risks involved as Canada Customs do seize shipments.

Good luck with your search.

[BUSA7]

Things must changed recently. In 2002, a Caterham SV was purchased, imported and picked up by myself

from a then Ontario dealer. The vehicle is not an entire kitcar. The car option known as a CKD is made up of a number of build groups, so you may choose the % of a complete car you wish to purchase. Mine was a chassis, bodywork and some suspension parts (say half of whole car). US/Canadian sourced parts, local used parts or selfmade parts for the reminder. Hayabusa engine from an Ontario wrecker. Car is still

in the build up stage.

 

[shiva]

 

Do you know if British American Motorsports have a web site up and running?

Do you have their contact info by chance?

Thanks,

 

Jack

 

check out Brittanicar's website. This is the BAM headquarter

 

http://www.brittanicar.com/

 

Len and Seth are really good guys.

[Birkin42]

Thanks for the link.

It's nice to see someone is still carrying the torch up here.

[WestTexasS2K]

This car is on ebay for the next 9 days. Looks like a very nice ride. It is in Canada and is hayabusa powered.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lotus-CATERHAM-SUPER-7-1400-HAYABUSA-Lotus-7_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6312QQihZ015QQitemZ250286462365QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[JohnCh]

Looks like a great car, but is priced accordingly. From the ad:

 

"I will be only too pleased to answer any qiestions [sic] once the bidding has exceeded $50,000.00 "

 

-John

[SkinnyG]

Those retail new for $85,000 CDN up here.