Off Road SHO Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 My brake light switch got stuck in the ON position and the heat from the bulbs melted the white plastic socket/lens holders. Would anyone here know where I can get a set in the States? Thanks in advance. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 My brake light switch got stuck in the ON position and the heat from the bulbs melted the white plastic socket/lens holders. Would anyone here know where I can get a set in the States? Thanks in advance. Tom CHECK HERE and HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks, I've sent emails to them. We'll see if I get a response back from any. I'm not beyond just replacing the whole assembly, both backing plate/socket/lens and pigtail with something else. I wonder what these tail lights were originally installed on? They kind of look like Land Rover tail lights. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks, I've sent emails to them. We'll see if I get a response back from any. I'm not beyond just replacing the whole assembly, both backing plate/socket/lens and pigtail with something else. I wonder what these tail lights were originally installed on? They kind of look like Land Rover tail lights. Tom Did you contact any of the SPF dealers listed there? Forget about sending an email, pick up the phone and speak with them live. Bill S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Bill, I did on another problem and got the feeling I was keeping them from their higher paying work. I've google image searched and see some that are similar but not the same. Would really like to replace them with some quality units, but that might not be possible in today's China centric manufacturing. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlumba81 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Its a uk site but the light looks similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 My lenses are okay so I was hoping to avoid drilling new holes in my S-1, since those don't show how it's mounted to the body. I can't believe the Superformance guys designed and had built their own tail lights, they probably picked something from a car or truck. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 My lenses are okay so I was hoping to avoid drilling new holes in my S-1, since those don't show how it's mounted to the body. I can't believe the Superformance guys designed and had built their own tail lights, they probably picked something from a car or truck. Tom Parts were all sourced locally in South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwagon Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 forget direct replacement. why replace that that failed? Look on ebay for 12v led lights that can be mounted in your enclosure, that is what I have planed as one of mine is already heat damaged. and they can be much brighter. We own orphans but no worse than a home built and SF did do a great many tings right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 forget direct replacement. why replace that that failed? Look on ebay for 12v led lights that can be mounted in your enclosure, that is what I have planed as one of mine is already heat damaged. and they can be much brighter. We own orphans but no worse than a home built and SF did do a great many tings right. Speed, That's the problem, the enclosures as you call them are melted from the old style filament bulbs. The previous owner replaced the bulbs with newer LED bulbs but the enclosures were still the old melted ones. I will try and insert a pic of the melted bulb housings. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Found them in the U.K. They are from the Land Rover Defender 90 and 110 vehicles. http://www.pegasusparts.co.uk/ourshop_90073/prod_2756583-RTC-5523-KIT-StopTail-Lamp-Assembly-September-1973-onwards.html Now if I can just find them here. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHKflyer52 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Try the Land Rover dealer in Portland OR. :driving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlumba81 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Might as well order it from the UK. Being in Alaska I've found shipping cheaper from the UK than from California, never mind anything from the east coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transalpian Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Found them in the U.K. They are from the Land Rover Defender 90 and 110 vehicles. http://www.pegasusparts.co.uk/ourshop_90073/prod_2756583-RTC-5523-KIT-StopTail-Lamp-Assembly-September-1973-onwards.html Now if I can just find them here. Tom Being a Rover owner too ('74 series 3 88") I will caution you on those lamps. The bulb holders are often (way too often...) very soft plastic that don't hold the bulbs in place. The contact springs will often push the bulb completely out of the socket leaving but a nice groove the shape of the bulb bayonette, with the now broken bulb ratting about inside the lens. I have resorted to buying these things, gutting the lamp holder, and splicing in a standard metal lamp holder from NAPA. Even after all that, the posts that "catch" the screws used to hold the lens in place will strip if you either a) remove them more than 4 times, or b) apply more than 1oz-in of torque. I wish I had a better option to offer, but this is a so-far unsolved issue in the Rover community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 I can get them from my local Land Rover stealership (part number RTC5523), who in turn gets them from somewhere in cauliflornia but he wants 38.00 apiece, 76.00 per pair! And I end up with the same cheap plastic bulb holder, that transalpian mentioned. I went down to the local Oreily's for just the socket in metal, but they look absolutely cheap too. I will try and go to NAPA tomorrow to see if they have better sockets. On the cheapie factory units, the bulb socket actually protrudes through a big hole in the fiberglass escucheon (sp?) that the socket base is screwed to. If I have to modify anything, I might as well just by some newer style LED lights and be done with it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transalpian Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Same lamp, but from British Pacific http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/3736.cfm $17.95 each. From Rovers North http://landroverparts.roversnorth.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=PLF199&type=0 $15.95 each. I cut the plastic lamp holder from the mounting flange and superglued in a metal lampholder. Easier to do than to explain. I also have ground "issues" (as almost all series owners do) so I bought a lamp holder with a direct wired ground rather than relying on the body ground. Rovers North also sells an LED replacement (but not direct replacement, the bolt patterns are different): http://landroverparts.roversnorth.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=LED6388&type=0 $29.95 each. Lots of options, none great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transalpian Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 On the cheapie factory units, the bulb socket actually protrudes through a big hole in the fiberglass escucheon (sp?) that the socket base is screwed to. If I have to modify anything, I might as well just by some newer style LED lights and be done with it. That's how they all mount. It looks like yours are held on with four bolts? If so, that surprises me as the lamps were designed to use three, one of which provides the ground connection to the body. But of course fiberglass isn't the best ground conductor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 I gave up trying to find a suitable alternative and just ordered 2 new light assemblies fro Land Rover of Scottsdale. They come with the incandescent bulbs but I will get some LED bulbs, I'm not going to go through this again. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I have the Land Rover lights on my Westfield and replaced the stop/tail lights with Radiantz 1.85" LED clusters. They are very bright, and maintain an edge over the outgoing 2357 bulbs even at extreme angles. It's available in a pigtail version that terminates in an 1157/2357 plug, which enables you to fit the large cluster at the base of the light fixture. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road SHO Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Damn I am so pissed. Finally got the new lights and they don't *%#&@in fit! The escutcheon that the lights screw to (that converts the angle of the fenders to vertical for the lights) is too shallow near the bottom, a quarter inch too shallow. They also missed on the hole alignment at the back of the escutcheon and fender. I sure don't feel like grinding bigger holes in fiberglass to make a shitty light fit in a poorly designed mount. I think I will find some surface mount amber and red LED lights. Anybody want to buy some brand new Land Rover lights and LED 1157 bulbs to go with them? Tom Edited November 17, 2013 by Off Road SHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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