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Glen - were you at LOG30 too? I recall Maureen - tall, leggy, blonde - checking out the sevens, trying a few of their driving seats on for size. I seem to recall everyone was trying to get her pants into their car...or something like that. She had some guy with her too but I cannot recall him that well. :jester: I also seem to recall she liked my yellow SV the best. :seeya:

Very well said. The jokes never stop when we are around.

Hi Ross Not stings. Its not like that. It was more that it made a bunch of us think "I'll show them" and put together our own event and have a marque inclusive participation consistent with the goals of the USA7s club. I can think of 5 members of this forum experiencing the same instinctive reaction at the same time as I did. We decided we should do our own thing and have fun our own way. So we did. From a little idea came a really great event that has lasted 10 years. As for the two L7 owner-numpties that made the comment (it was not you - relax), I have since heard it direct from a bunch of people that my first hand experience of their snobbish views is not new and has been repeated time and time again. They are polishers and not drivers. So I fail those two individuals as exhibiting poor manners than blame the broader Lotus community. I have had a number of great experiences within the Lotus Ltd network around NJ/PA and in Denver, when I was shaking down my current CSR with test drives (Thank you Skip!). Besides, LOG Gettysburg is where I met you for the first time - outside the hotel. Consistent with what you wrote, you were mildly irritated about how people expected you to actually wash your car and make it look pretty for concours and no credit was given for actually driving from CO. I agree with you wholeheartedly, that we are a small group and we need to be welcoming as possible to have a community that can thrive. Cheers mike

Oh dude! I can so relate to that photo of steaming engine and the fluro green coolant leaking out. Happened a few times on my Caterhams and more recently, in the Fiat. Always on an isolated country road with no phone signal. I recommend carrying some silicone tape in the tool kit for hose bursts. Would not have solved your problem this time but that stuff has saved me with many a coolant pipe burst.

LOG Gettysburg was where the idea for the Sevens event started. After being relegated to Siberia, both in the banquet room and at the car show, plus some unfortunate views expressed by two owners of original Lotus 7s, those with Birkins and Caterhams (no other marque was present) bonded quite well over many drinks and hatched the idea that we needed to have our own fun event without the heritage politics that came with some of the Lotus folks. I think it was Tom's idea for a track event with Mike quickly latching onto it. Al Navarro and myself were more thinking a road tour similar to 7-7-07. Jon (Boxologist) was more interested in an autocross and knocking back the drinks! Kitcat did compete in the LOG Gettysburg autocross. In the first run he messed up something - got lost I think? Then Tom persuaded him that he should get a passenger to help the weight distribution. In true Mike fashion, he launched before the passenger (it was Jon - Boxologist - I think?) had his helmet done up. Jon literally finished strapping it as Kitcat crossed the finish line. Michael D was there with Scott Lentz and Norm borrowing his Caterham for the autocross. Yes that was a cone under the nose of the car that Michael has collected However, the fastest time of the day went to a four legged/two wheeled contraption Good lordy, did she know how to use a whip! That little blue crossflow now for sale in Alberta, Canada has seen a lot and travelled far. May the next owner continue its adventures.

Wow - what an amazing transformation. I have used that product before but even so this is a big before/after comparison.

Or go back a year before that to LOG Gettysburg Here with my old SVT Zetec (now owned by Jude in Alaska) - Caterhams touring the Civil War battlefields.

Ten years ago, almost to the day, it was here at NJMP being driven by "The Enema" Coming through the bowl at Lightning Circuit at NJMP. Front: Kitcat Middle: Michael D (now owned by Carl B) Back: Me In the esses - turns 3 and 4 on the Lightning Circuit at NJMP. Being chased by Scott Lentz (RIP - we miss you good buddy) The first sevens event at NJMP group photo Left to Right: Karl (Blubarisax), Stewart (Sabbot) (well his Caterham anyway...not sure where he was), Tom (Yellowss7), Me, Dave D (DaveD), Steve (S1Steve), Mike (Kitcat), Michael D, Scott A very pretty car. One of the best color schemes on a seven that I have seen.

Calling Kitcat - I think the last listing in Canada is your old crossflow? NEW None REPEATS Lotus 7 S2 https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1964-lotus-super-7-series-2/overview Lotus 7 S2 http://www.motorcarcompany.com/1963-lotus-seven.html and here https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2409828.html Lotus 7 S2 http://thesmiekelcollection.com/1967-lotus-super-seven/ Lotus 7A https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7a/2388210.html Mitsuoka Zero https://www.duncanimports.com/used/Mitsuoka/1994-Mitsuoka-Zero1-cb265bd50a0e08b907465681642548f8.htm Stalker https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker/303603879185?hash=item46b0338d11:g:FwsAAOSw4dxeD8lq Lotus 7 S2 http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1583269377/1583269377ss.htm Stalker http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1437589044/1437589044ss.htm Caterham https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/2013-caterham-seven-480/ Lotus 7 S2 https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/lotus-7-america-vintage-race-car/ Caterham https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/caterham/unspecified/2403703.html Caterham http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/201216-nos-caterham-sv-roadsport/ Caterham http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/2000-caterham/ Wharton 7 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1299993/1978-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601 Birkin https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/d/los-angeles-birkin-s3-lotus-7/7136532959.html Stalker https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/frisco-lotus-super-seven-brunton-super/7137320865.html Stalker https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/d/north-kingstown-lotus-super-7-replica/7144405186.html Maxton https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/longmont-1992-maxton-rollerskate-for/7141407958.html Westfield https://nmi.craigslist.org/cto/d/traverse-city-westfield-speed-sport-1800/7152504660.html CANADA Dutton 7 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/barrie/lotus-7-spec-dutton/1509455253 Replica v8 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/oshawa-durham-region/fast-and-fun/1507773740 Birkin https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/calgary/fs:-birkin-s3-super-seven-1700cc-ford-kent-twin-weber-rocket/1505046257 Mcc 7 Project https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/mississauga-peel-region/mcc-7/1432118799 Locost 7 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/mississauga-peel-region/lotus-7-clone-locost-mcc7/1508864078 Locost 7 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/lotus-7-replica/1508403000 Locost 7 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/portage-la-prairie/lotus-supper-seven/1510217779 Caterham https://7cars.ca/cars-for-sale/super-sprint.htm

I think your problem is going to be you have divergent purposes. The 310 would be ideal for auto-x and backroads driving. The Sigma engine is lighter than a Duratec and is rev happy. Nice bark to its exhaust too. The track day is a different challenge. Summit Point is a neat track. Nicely twisty but for the straight which is fairly long. I think that straight may do you in, despite having a high speed kink part way along. An illustration of the challenge - same Caterham 310, same driver, one day apart, on two very different tracks: Silverstone UK (GP layout) and Donington UK (GP layout that day) I am yawning at Silverstone and watching the world go by. By contrast, Donington shows the car at its best, nimble, in the power band, able to pass cars. I think Summit Point is more open than Donington and so you would be low on hp with a 310R and get frustrated. There are engine upgrade packages from the 310 if you went to Premier Power and threw money at the problem to get up to 220hp. http://premierpowerengines.com/ However, if you are doing this then you would likely be better off just spec'ing a 420 and getting 210hp as standard in a Duratec engine with all the torque benefits that come along with that. Probably cheaper to buy it upfront than upgrading. It also gives you a clear upgrade path to go higher hp if you get bored down the track. That level of hp would allow you to hang on better down the straight and be right there with then at the turn 1 braking zone. Gets you from 110mph top speed to 120mph on your track. A 420R is a really good blend for track and road. Enough to hang on in most tracks but not too powerful for road. A 420R has done a 2min43 at Spa lap record - thats Porsche 911 GT3 RS territory so they can be incredibly quick on tracks that are traditionally considered power circuits. One thing as you think through these options, you will want to upgrade to (1) 13 inch wheels for autocross and track days - increases responsiveness and handling feel and (2) you will want an aeroscreen as the windscreen is a windbrake at speed. They are easy to change over in minutes if you have the captive nut brackets installed. My view but trying to give you data points for comparison as you think this through.

You raise all very good points. I had forgotten about the sudden jump two days in on a 7 day auction. That may have been a bid strategy that went wrong - or just silly as you observe.

Thanks for clarifying Jim.

Normal reversion to type - your Westfield did start life as a crossflow!

I will second Andy's comments. I have dealt with Jo a few times over the years with various purchases and she has been a delight to work with. Product orders and deliveries sorted out promptly with no hassles. She is really nice to chat with over the phone.

Wow - did not realize was built. Thats exceptional price for a turnkey Caterham.

The recent BAT auction car has certainly confused values. $45,500 for a 2001 Zetec S3 with only fairly basic options and modest circa 140hp, albeit in very nice condition, is extraordinary. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/zetec-powered-super-seven-5-speed/ It does not make sense when you can buy a new Caterham 420R (210hp) kit at its basic level from $48k (refer Caterham USA website) or a new Caterham 310SV kit with better spec and more hp here (including powertrain) for $42K http://www.beachmanracing.com/inventory Add $5k for assembly and you are wheelspinning down the road. I think the differentiation for value was its title in CA as a 1967 Lotus 7. Cars with more 'flexible' titling from the past days of DMVs not knowing how to categorize these cars do allow people in otherwise difficult states for these cars (MA, CA, NJ, etc) to enjoy them. They pay a premium for them. I have personal experience of this too. I own a non-Federalized imported car (a Fiat) which has a CA BAR sticker on it for which I have several times been offered double what I paid simply because you cannot register/pass emissions with this type car in CA any more and that little plate on my car is now unobtainium. However, because mine has it then the only hope a CA resident has of driving one legally is to buy one with the BAR sticker. Mine is the only one in 6 years that has come up for sale globally with that qualification. Clearly that has value beyond what I ever expected. It never entered my head when I was buying but for a CA resident it makes a car incredibly valuable. I think we saw that with the recent BAT auction of the Zetec car. My theory anyway. So lets go back to the original question I'll lay out my logic for why I arrived at the value below. From what I got through my various conversations over the 2 odd years its been languishing for sale is that Kim has it on consignment and did not buy it outright. I have not talked with him directly on this particular car but he is a good guy to call and chat directly. I never heard any back stories about it. Having owned ex-press/media Caterhams, that is not a deal killer. They were usually driven hard and maintained well and had a good level of spec. All the problems are usually sorted and they are reliable. I am concerned it has sat for 2 years and possibly not been driven. These cars get unreliable when not driven. Hoses harden. Electrical faults creep in. Usually requires a period of time to fettle back into reliability. Not difficult but I believe it involves a value decrement for your time to make the car reliable again. Don't get distracted by the claim of paying $88k in 2013. The GB Pound was very high relative to the USD then. Since then the rate has dropped by a third which equates to $58K today. Probably about the price if you bought a similar spec 420R SV today based on the new ones quoted earlier. Spec is excellent - 235hp, dry sump, lowered floors, SV wide body. It is titled as a 1957 Lotus replica per ad description. I assume the title mentions "replica" but you should check what that does in your own state for title and registration. Not all states are automatically easy. Mentioning replica probably means it will not enjoy the BAT premium for conveniently titled CA cars. This is a big assumption that needs validation by a potential purchaser. One good think about BAT is they plot sale prices on charts so you can assess past values https://bringatrailer.com/lotus/seven/ It shows the recent Caterham zetec auction was an aberation compared with the rest of the data as we know. For S3 chassis Caterhams circa 1990s/2000s the price have trended slightly up from say $25K to $30K over time. There is not enough data for SV chassis but they get a premium (more scarce, more usable for people, more comfortable for touring, etc). Certainly nothing more recent in the 2010+ year range. If it has not sold at $49500 after 2 years then it is likely overvalued unless there is some really good backstory to support the length of time on sale or this is a dealer demo where the dealer is having too much fun or the owner is enjoying but really telling the wife "I am trying to sell it, really!" I get to a $40-45K range of value for this car in my head if it was me buying. Final value depends on what the title really says. At $45K you have to seriously consider a new Caterham and evaluate the numbers. Beachman Racing has a 420R SV in stock for build in July with a close enough spec it would be a valid comparison to this 2013 SV for sale. All my humble views - feel free to disagree.

Very well said Papak! Thumbs up!

Not sure where you are located but plenty of online US sites have it - spec urgent delivery to your door direct https://www.amazon.com/Spectra-Premium-SP1155-Electric-Fuel/dp/B00GOP7RGA https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sgt-sp1155 https://www.ebay.com/p/214809187 https://www.pepboys.com/spectra-premium-electrical-fuel-pump/product/1016192 Gee Pepboys is a rip off - nearly double the others. You could go to PepBoys retail place and have them order the product off their website https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/spectra+premium,SP1155,fuel+pump,6256 Cheapest price of the ones I found Napa and Advance Auto do not stock it That does not get you one today unfortunately If you need a pump today then try Holley or Edelbrock inline pumps. You will have to see what they have in stock but these two brands have a variety of pumps that should give you the gph and psi you need.

Matching up the part number WFX100631 produces the following part supplier https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-WFX100631 The fuel tank float is not correct for a Caterham fuel tank but the old one can be swapped over. A longer term solution is to open the white plastic housing and replace the internal pump itself should the housing become no longer available by way of this supplier.

Photo of pump mounted on top of tank

Close up of codes from tank top plate

Photos of in tank pump

With Caterham no longer supplying the fuel pump as a part, this thread is a future memory aid to other CSR owners as they encounter this problem. According to both Cosworth and Minster, the CSR260 engine needs fuel pressure of 4.3 bar or 62 psi. Further, the pump needs to produce a fuel flow under load of 1.4 liters per minute. The original pump was used in the following vehicles: Rover 200 1.4i to 1.9i from 1995 to 1999 Rover 400 1.4i to 1.6i from 1996 to 2000 Rover 45 1.4i and 1.6i from 1996 to 2000 And evil vehicles they were too.

Run in time!

I know the standard Caterham single silencer with side exit is too loud for Lime Rock circuit as that limits at 96db, however, I suspect my issue there may also be intake noise... You will have the same problem as me if a 96db limit is applied. A 420R can just sneak past a 96db sound limit at Lime Rock using a single silencer and side exit. Wish you were on the east coast, I know a bunch of Caterham track rats (Simon, Seb, Jeff, me) who would love to play tag with a 620R!