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Its a big readjustment process but incredibly rewarding as a driver. Most people come from bigger cars which have enough weight over the nose to just hammer the wheel left or right and the car just goes. However, a Caterham (or Birkin or Westfield or Locost) just do not have the nose weight when under acceleration so a left or right turn in that state will just lead to scrub. A brief lift of throttle or light tap on brake is nearly always enough to put more weight on the nose/front wheels to get them to bite for your turn. Then you can play with throttle in the corner to adjust attitude. Think of it in a sequence. Corner coming up. Brake to get weight over nose. Once weight is on nose then off brake and turn in. Once turn iniitated then start to feed in power progressively to come out of corner quickly. Slow in and fast out. Ross Bentley in his Speed Secrets series has a good section on managing weight transfer around the 4 wheels for varying outcomes. Find his first book in the series and have a read. Then go out and experiment - great opportunity for a track day since you can do it safely plus repeat corners to adjust technique and get a good seat of pants feel. Also read his section on trail brake as this is a great technique for keeping the rear end controlled under late braking entry to corners - Caterhams respond well to trail braking. Its more lack of weight on front tires under acceleration. Its not a 50/50 weight distribution front to rear as a driver is a lot heavier than a 4 cylinder Ford engine. Obviously with the aerodynamics of a brick, there is some front end lift which exacerbates the problem. The example corner for me is Copse at Silverstone. Its the old turn 1 if you are using the old pits. Its 60 foot wide track going and about 80 foot wide coming out. I go in at redline in 4th and have 15 feet of available track on exit, even without braking or lifting. And I scrub understeer the whole way through. I do not need to tap or lift as the track is so wide. But I have to do a lift to set the front tires up for a quick corner. Frustrating. Luckily there are not many places where that is an issue - top corner just past the rising esses at VIR, Copse at Silverstone, two corners at Portimao, entry into corner 1 at double Gauche at Spa, etc. Caterham sell one for rear camber and toe: https://caterhamparts.co.uk/de-dion-tube/6531-camber-and-toe-shim-kit-de-dion-cars.html I would ping Josh at Rocky Mountain - I bet he has some in stock. You do need to know where you are starting from on rear alignment. How much rear camber is dialed in from the standard de Dion. Should be 2.5deg but that is not guaranteed - check will tell you. Borrowing a photo from someone else since I am flying this month and won't be near my cars until June. Front - back of wishbone. Photo shows a more recent model Caterham with ali skin. The ruler points at measuring point. My measurement was ground to chassis tube as not all cars are covered in ali there (e.g. older chassis and race cars) but you can deduct the right amount of ali skin cover from the 120mm. For the rear measurement point, do it ground to chassis tube at the rear axle point - no photo handy right now. Its not much - only +5mm rake front wheels to back wheels.

Just thought I would add my starting spec for my various de Dion cars over the years. This is intended to feel good for a track but I find it works well for road too although it can make the car sensitive to tram lining. It does not matter what spring or shock combo you have for this. Front Full caster on wishbone washers Camber - For a LHD car on treaded tires you can go 3.2RHS and 3.0LHS. Full slicks will bring this down a little -0.2 -0.1. This allows for weight bias of driver on side to side balance. You may want to just be 3.1 both sides initially and then dial in divergently each side as you test. 1mm toe out Rear 2.5deg ears with shim to get 2.6 camber. Most people do not shim but I think it is essential - particularly on an SV. Start with no rear toe in. Dial in after you baseline iniital spec - I bet you will end up at 0.1 as you mentioned in your post as that is where I usually end up. Ride Height Measure ground to chassis rail and not ali skin as older chassis and race cars have exposed tubes - the newer cars have ali skin. If you are measuring to ali skin then modify measurement accordingly. Its 120mm at back of front wishbone +5mm rake at rear - Caterhams and Westfields are quite sensitive to rake. If you want higher ride height then same process to achieve right rake. This is start point and I then tweak one change at a time from there as no one chassis is the same - they all feel slightly different - at least on a track where I can replicate driving again and again to check feel on a standardized corner. It is essential you baseline then change only one item each time thereafter otherwise you have no idea what each change is doing to improve or worsen the car.

I hate to ask this as it may be viewed as insulting but I feel I should check as most people new to these cars are expecting miracles from the car.... All Caterhams will understeer if you stuff it into a corner hard enough - even the very best set up ones. The driver has to control the weight balance manually and put enough weight on the front wheels to get them to bite for crisp cornering. These cars require more driver involvement to get the very best out of them. Even then, high speed understeer is a thing you will run up against on very high speed corners (think 110mph+). Apologies if you know this but I was reacting to what you said.

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The loom was essentially a crossflow loom with a custom engine harness for the zetec. I bet this is a bad earth somewhere. John's comment on LEDs exposing bad earths is spot on.

Damn right. Do your homework on who you are sending a car to. I have been known to ship projects out west as it is MUCH cheaper than using a specialist on the east coast plus I can tap into a deep network of very knowledgeable people with extensive collections. In the dumb cost awards, did you know Land Rover Brooklyn in NYC area charges $500 per hour for a mechanic to work on your trusty Land Rover or Range Rover? Even the local Ferrari dealer repair shop is not that bad. Fuggeddabutit. It was also good to break down at Tom Carlin's on my road trip in 2021 as there was a convenient specialist nearby in a little town who knew his stuff and even owned a sister car to mine. He also had a large collection of Lotus/Loti which reinforced my faith. For a Caterham or Birkin, I believe a good race mechanic will work wonders as the cars are similar to many space frame race cars they work on. Always make sure you source parts for them - thats an expensive soak of time that you can do yourself. Always provide a copy of the manual or technical bulletin and educate them - simplify their learning curve as that saves substantial time. In an ideal world I would have time to do the work myself but I don't. Between work, work travel that keeps me out of town 7-8 months of the year, family sagas, and my own home saga, I don't have time to come on here and cause mischief to @Vovchandr

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You could use 15 inch wheel stays (yes with 13 inch wheels). Gives a little more clearance given the variability about tire sizes.

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Welcome to USA7s! Its not an odd request to ask to try sevens on for size. I think is a smart idea to help you think through what you want in car spec. Reasonably close. I was at Odette's in New Hope last night for dinner. Nice part of the world there. There are 3 Caterham SVs in Millville NJ that you are welcome to try on for size. One S3 in Marlton NJ area. Another S3 just south of Philly. in October we have the annual HPDE scheduled and there are all shapes and sizes of sevens that will be present but I understand you may not want to wait that long.

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This car stands out as having huge hostility from all bidding audiences. I have not really known a car to attract that much sentiment and definitely not sure why. Not even sure it is warranted. But a lot of people voted with their wallets. By the way the numbers you quote exclude auction buyer premium which would otherwise inflate the headline auction bid to higher numbers. Ranges 12.5% to 20% depending on auction company. Experienced bidders will bid after factoring in this additional cost along with shipping cost - that way you do not overpay.

Yes its still in the list under Lotus7/Caterham with listings by Bullet Motorsport in Hemmings and FacePlant. Asking $22K on FB. Odd choice for Barrett Jackson? Not really their market although the alcohol ego infused bidding is a major feature.

You are not the first to get a big bill for work performed. Secondly, you are not the first to see a mechanic cause his own damage which he then will try to explain away with an apology but which he would like you to pay for. Third, you are definitely not the first to see a mechanic reinvent the wheel all because they did not seek out input from the more knowledgeable. However, fabricating a thermostat when I bet the issue was the notoriously unreliable and faulty sender is really irritating. I'm sorry you are going through this but think - you are getting close and the list is down to post-it note size paper now. Have a drink then keep the faith.

@Kitcat Photo above should trigger a memory!

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Yes I got one of the original batch spherical bearings and put it in a 620. I also installed powerflex poly bushings all round as I like their excellent durability more than the usual rubber plus suspension just feels tighter with better feel when using poly bushes. Just trundling around on roads there is zero difference in feel. Will see what it does when I get on track. My experience is the rubber bushes tear readily with a lot of track driving (think 2000 miles level) but I have never seen the nylon washers wear out first or at the same time. 4 days at Spa-Francorchamps is circa 1000 miles for me to give perspective. Anyway, I replace the washers when I replace the bushings. My disappointing experience with the rubber bushings is why I have converted solely to poly bushes all round the suspension - far more durable and a slightly tighter feel to the car. Just to be clear, I don't think bushes or bearings will change anything on the original reason I had for starting this thread. A frames can break suddenly in a high stress track environment (or lots of bumpy rutted roads) and you should check them regularly and think of them as a consumable if you track Caterhams a lot. Edited to add: I will probably order a second set of the spherical bearing to put on my UK 420R since it lives on track and gave rise to this thread. Probably upgraditis but hey!

I bet with pass configuration. It will be like a new toy and getting used constantly. It will be a vote on the day by those participating.

Yes it is a much quicker circuit now that you cut out the octopus head. I bet he did cut off 10 seconds with that track modification. Well yes...

I am surprised that the new left corner is so slow. This is a well prepared fast C8 with an experienced driver. Its 52mph - slower than turn 5 - although it looks like he may have early apexed which could be a contributor and I think the data is slightly lagging the video based on throttle noises. A Caterham will be slightly quicker as the corner looks trickier than expected. The transition from old track to connector new surface and then again regaining the old surface was jarring - car jolted. The video comments are very instructive: I get to try this out in May. Too much going on this month.

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Thats just the hp evolution curve. When I started racing in the 80s, high hp out of a road going v8 (Corvette) was 250hp or so. Fast forward to say 2005 and your average Corvette was say 350hp. Continue the fast forward to today and a Corvette is 700-800hp. The VW Bee.....sorry I mean Porker 911 has had a similar hp evolution over time. Weight has gone the same way. A Corvette was 3000lbs in the mid 80s but today is 3500lbs (or dammit 4000lbs in the ZR1X). The 911 was 2600lbs in 1985 and is 3500lbs today (plus gained thighs like Hillary Clinton did). What this means is the race crowd and the separate track day crowd are manhandling big heavy cars with lots of hp. That begs for a power circuit with point and shoot capability - fast on the straights and then slooooooowly wobble through the corners. All this track modification is doing is converting the track to more of a power circuit with less emphasis on cornering ability. Ultimately that makes it boring for me. Sure it will be "better" (aka faster) in my Mustang or CSL but that does not equate to fun. To me, I think Lightning is a better track for a se7en since it is a momentum track. Its faster than Thunderbolt (pre-mods) since its average speed is higher. You are thinking of turn 5. Your car would not make from the front gate to the Lightning pits so I think we are safe. Anyway, lots of others have done that trick so think of something new.

@CBuff Walked it but not driven it. I think its only been used for the first time this week as they had weather delays laying the asphalt. It makes it easier for a big heavy car but its a bit of a 'meh' corner otherwise. It was reputedly done to keep the NASCAR/ARCA crowd happy.