Al N. Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Are there any good zetec specialized shops in the southeast? Brad...focus power is in NC...their web site is down at the moment, but they seem to have a good rep on the Focus/Zetec Forums. Those forums are a good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) place to get tips on Zetecs. Stick to the all-motor forums, as most of the Focus "kids" want the most bang for their buck...and that means forced induction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Loren, the ball is in the park for the S2K owner to play or pass. It looked like I could make it work. It needed things cleaned up for me though. I would need to loose some of the FIA cage to make it useable for me, and likely paint it, and do something for seats & windshield. The Birkin has great road maners now, I don't want a motor tuned to a very narrow power band and not streetable. I do want to stay with a lite 4 cyl. car if I can. If I didn't have the ITB, I would S/C it in a second. I'm not knocking Mazda's Rocket, it just isn't what I want today, tomorrow?? I have had those type of toys and want to try something new that is what brings me here. I would like to see his car sometime. You would not beleive some of the cars I have had, not allowed to chase things with a pulse, so it has been cars & airplanes for me. I had to have a reason to go work, I'm too old for that now though. :banghead: same here :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Rotus is pretty heavy anyway, but the LS1 is about 430 lbs, including accessories and manifolds. I'd say that's only 100 lbs heavier than an all aluminum 4 banger. Mazda, My 1.8L Rover K series weighs in at a svelt 187 lbs, with the bell housing!:crazy: I'm still the heaviest part of the car. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Mazda, My 1.8L Rover K series weighs in at a svelt 187 lbs, with the bell housing!:crazy: I'm still the heaviest part of the car. Tom Damn... that's very light. What's the power output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Only 196 bhp. 150 torque . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 That's very respectable for such a light engine. Is that in stock trim or modded. It's more than 100hp/Liter. (woohoo, I'm good at math) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The K series in base tune is around 118 bhp. I think that was the rating for the base UK series 1 Elise. The SuperSport spec is 138 bhp. and This level of tune is what was referred to as the VHPD (Very High Power Derivative). It was used in the UK SLR (superlight R) caterhams. At the time I ordered it, it was the most powerful level of tune. Then they came out with the R500 with 232 bhp I've since seen several guys taking them up to around 250 bhp. But I don't think they last too long at that level. With a total car weight of 1164 lbs. it's plenty for me. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Again, impressive numbers for such a light engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I say find a good Zetec shop, try the head/cam swap...and see if you can live with the results. I agree with that and the suggestion to lose weight. The Raceline website explains how to get 250 out of the Zetec, but I would start to worry about reliability. Unless you are drag racing, I don't think turbocharging is a good idea because of the lag and additional modifications beyond the engine (transmission, headers, cooling, etc.). For shops in the Southeast - Quicksilver, Focus Power are good choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 slngsht Jerry Finks new Viking is suppose to be LS7 powered. He is supposed to have it at Run N Gun if the rumors are correct. He was talking about it last year at the event so I know it was in the works at the time. It has been said that it ran an autoX last month and was a brutal monster. Rumor mill is reporting 525 hp at the wheels his last car was 1700 with driver and this is suppose to be lighter. :eek: I must admit that is a tempting thought. I am tempted to do a locost LS2 even before my Ultralite purchase. I had even asked Brian if he could put a V8 in he said maybe but it doesnt need it. I agreed after I went for a ride:d But you know how you become use to the power after awhile. I think I could handle it now.:jester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 slngsht Jerry Finks new Viking is suppose to be LS7 powered. He is supposed to have it at Run N Gun if the rumors are correct. He was talking about it last year at the event so I know it was in the works at the time. It has been said that it ran an autoX last month and was a brutal monster. Rumor mill is reporting 525 hp at the wheels his last car was 1700 with driver and this is suppose to be lighter. :eek: I must admit that is a tempting thought. I am tempted to do a locost LS2 even before my Ultralite purchase. I had even asked Brian if he could put a V8 in he said maybe but it doesnt need it. I agreed after I went for a ride:d But you know how you become use to the power after awhile. I think I could handle it now.:jester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 LS7, lighter than 1700 lbs with the driver :willy: I agree, as crazy as these numbers are, your brain gets used to it, and then you want to go faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjslutz Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 I don't want a turbo for the above reason, and I would rather not have a stressed out engine for my use. I would like reliable HP, but don't want to reinvent the wheel or coble up a nice car. The prior owner said I could get 220 HP W/O too much problem, but it was a big step to 250HP and questioned the reliability. It sure looks like the S2K should be the ticket. I was hoping to fin a supply of Zetec parts. I could use a thermostat now also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDrye Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Mazda, My 1.8L Rover K series weighs in at a svelt 187 lbs, with the bell housing! I'm sorry, but I'm from Missouri on this one. I have personally weighed a busa motor at 185. I know that has the trans on it but the trans doesn't that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Here it is. The carbon trumpets make it real light. Bob, you can look it up. I did and found this. "The Rover engine"s compact size and weight are a significant advantage in a lightweight race/sports car of the Lotus 7 type or the Elise. Note, a full race K Series weighs 78 kg including 7 kg of fluids. http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/509057773_rover k series.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDrye Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm posting a link that is quite intresting! http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?essaykseriesf.htm QUITE simply the K is a very remarkable engine, the best four around and uniquely suited to motor sport, far more so than the heavy Japanese copies with all their over-engineering and most particularly the 2L Duratec with its archaic bearing cap design. It deserves very much more recognition for the engine that it is, however it has been badly let down by companies trying to tune it, in fact murdered! What is totally amazing is that these companies, particularly the sports car manufacturers have not gone to the Rover design engineers for any help or advice at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Bob, Mine was built in 2000 by QED in the UK. It's Dry sumped, and the bellhousing contains the Oil tank. (in the above pic its in the box behind the engine) You'll notice too that the sump in much smaller than the one in the King K article. That King K article drew a lot of flak in the UK. It really is light and with the Jenvey DHTB's it rev's very smoothly and freely. Key is to warm the oil up before thrashing! It's a great little motor for a light weight car like the 7. Reliability seems to be inverse to the power level. As in most engines I assume. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDrye Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 When I picked up the completed short block ( SR20DET) from the machine shop a few months ago there wasn't enough room to use a hand truck so I just lifted up on to my shoulders. The Rover K series weighs at least 100 lbs less than mine. :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Well that was a long technical write up. If I had a K engine I would defenitley put his ideas into practice. But I will stick to my porky uber reliable Honda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 When I picked up the completed short block ( SR20DET) from the machine shop a few months ago there wasn't enough room to use a hand truck so I just lifted up on to my shoulders. The Rover K series weighs at least 100 lbs less than mine. :ack: You could hurt yourself doing stuff like that. That's why I went with the LS1. I can look at it, think about lifting it, and say HELL NO What was this thread about anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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