papak Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Any thoughts on the relative merits? My primary’s are getting pretty discolored and I would like to control the heat more. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirkinBernie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I had the headers on the Birkin coated silver in 2004 and they still look pretty good. I suspect it would be pretty difficult to keep wrap looking decent over the long term. I cannot comment on the relative merits from a heat perspective. Partly because I have never tried wrap, and partly because I had it done so long ago I don't remember if I noted any real difference in heat. I have the footwell and trans tunnel well insulated so heat isn't too big of a problem. I actually found a pic of them from 2004 taken just before hanging them on the car. Happy Motoring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV8 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Wrap holds moisture on the surface (less of a problem for garaged, fair weather vehicles) and the insulation raises the temp too high that results in eventual flaking and pipe failure. Wrapping generally voids the warranty on headers. A similar result can occur from only coating the outside of a header but a header that has reasonable wall thickness (16ga or thicker) and is coated inside and out should be able to handle a layer of wrap. A blanket or shield with a riveted on mat over the top where air can still flow underneath should be fine. Many oems do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee break Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Several years ago, with the engine out I did several things to reduce the heat impact on the passenger area. - Power coating of the header - Wrapping the parts of the header inside the engine bay - Stick-on heat insulation to the bulkhead and down the trans tunnel Since it was all done at the same time, I couldn't say which had a greater impact, but it was a big improvement. As to moisture, the car stays inside since I don't put the hood on I avoid the wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I had to make my own headers. no one has then for a 60 deg GM engine V6. I had little engine bay room; it wasn't that big a deal. I made the head plate out of 3/8 steel plate, used an exhaust gasket as a template. there is a muffler shop where I live so he bent a bunch of tubbing that I cut and welded. no chrome no wraps. no mufflers, just loud as hell Just what I wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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