Any Ron Paul Supporters Here?

[EburgE]

www.RonPaul2008.com

 

:cheers:

 

I actually put a sign in the front yard and a bumper sticker on the Elise.

 

At 41 years of age, I am a longtime Libertarian. Very much influenced by Ayn Rand in my 20s.

 

Anyone else?

[BusaLoco]

My Political Orientation is just right of Attila the Hun.

[slngsht]

I read up on him recently. Not quite sure what to make of it. I REALLY like the reduction in scope of federal gov. It's corruption that's out of control. He's not one of the ones who has seen a UFO lately, is he?

[Sean]

Is that the 6'-4" black transvestite guy on TV all the time?

[slngsht]

Is that the 6'-4" black transvestite guy on TV all the time?

 

:rofl: what channel are you watching? :bigears:

 

[slomove]

Yes!! I still have some space under the bonnet.

I think he may allow us to install this?

http://www.fnherstal.com/images/MRP.gif

I might vote for him

 

Gert

[Sean]

 

:rofl: what channel are you watching? :bigears:

I was joking. A reference to some guy who calls himself Ru Paul. He's a really tall black transvestite whom I've seen on TV now and then (not sure which channel, and don't really care).

[Kitcat]

I suspect that the percentage of Ron Paul supporters in the voting population is roughly the same as percentage of Seven drivers out of the general driving population.

 

Return to the gold standard? No thanks Ron, we WOULD all be living like Atilla the Hun. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

I like the guy who sees flying saucers myself. I say if you can believe in UFO's, your imagination has no limits. That's what I want in my president: a person untethered by reality, who thinks out side of the box and thinks really big. Sort of like Ron Paul in a lot of ways, but he thinks small.

[Mondo]

It always cracks me up when people rag on the government for wasting money and not doing things like a private business... the biggest rip off of taxpayers are the private businesses constantly cheating the goverrnment. Can you imagine how bad it would be if corporations were in charge (some think they currently are under Bush), think of all those future sci-fi movies like bladerunner....

my two cents..

[BusaLoco]

Ronald Reagan said:

 

"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."

 

[BusaLoco]

He also said:

 

"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."

 

"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination."

 

"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program."

- Ronald Reagan

 

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."

[slngsht]

It always cracks me up when people rag on the government for wasting money and not doing things like a private business... the biggest rip off of taxpayers are the private businesses constantly cheating the goverrnment. Can you imagine how bad it would be if corporations were in charge (some think they currently are under Bush), think of all those future sci-fi movies like bladerunner....

my two cents..

 

I rag on government, because I live here in DC and the waste is all around me.

 

I did gov consulting for 2 years and hated seeing all the bogus projects going to waste. Just walk into your typical fed gov building and you will see what I mean.

 

IMO the root of the problem is that the way things work in congress is that if you want something done, you have to buy votes by throwing in everybody's pet projects. Line item veto would have been a great idea if it had come to be.

 

Significant reduction in federal government functions will mean reduction in federal taxes and fewer federally funded pet projects. This does not automatically mean our overall taxes will be lower. States will probably raise taxes due to fewer handouts from the fed (states like Vermont will probably raise their tax rate to 90% :lol: ). In my opinion this is a good thing. Why? More local control. People will get much more involved in these issues when more of the burden of a pet project is tied to the immediate tax base. You want to build a 200 million dollar highway in the middle of nowhere, go right ahead and run on that platform in your local district where each individual will have ownership of the project's costs.

 

Going back to the beginning, the federal government was established with specific purposes

 

In particular, congress was established with specific goals defined in Article 1, section 8. If you read these, and then look at projects funded by the fed, ALOT have nothing to do with the authority of congress:

Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

 

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

 

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

 

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

 

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

 

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

 

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

 

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

 

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

 

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

 

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

 

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

 

To provide and maintain a Navy;

 

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

 

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

 

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

 

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular St

[slngsht]

I suspect that the percentage of Ron Paul supporters in the voting population is roughly the same as percentage of Seven drivers out of the general driving population.

 

Return to the gold standard? No thanks Ron, we WOULD all be living like Atilla the Hun. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

I like the guy who sees flying saucers myself. I say if you can believe in UFO's, your imagination has no limits. That's what I want in my president: a person untethered by reality, who thinks out side of the box and thinks really big. Sort of like Ron Paul in a lot of ways, but he thinks small.

 

Who was that? I haven't listened to news much lately. I heard Leno crack a joke about one of the candidates saying that. It wasn't Dennis Kusinich, was it?

[solder_guy]

Dennis Kusinich

 

Have you seen his wife! She has a tongue stud too!

 

Rob

 

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1004370578_Elizabeth_Harper_Kucinich.jpg

[slngsht]

 

Have you seen his wife!

 

Rob

 

Going to google right now :lol:

[slngsht]

 

Have you seen his wife!

 

Rob

 

I see he doesn't need a pillow :leaving:

[xflow7]

I suspect that the percentage of Ron Paul supporters in the voting population is roughly the same as percentage of Seven drivers out of the general driving population.

 

Return to the gold standard? No thanks Ron, we WOULD all be living like Atilla the Hun. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

I like the guy who sees flying saucers myself. I say if you can believe in UFO's, your imagination has no limits. That's what I want in my president: a person untethered by reality, who thinks out side of the box and thinks really big. Sort of like Ron Paul in a lot of ways, but he thinks small.

 

Some might say we already have that.

[Mondo]

Slngsht,

I can appreciate you position on the Feds, mine comes from the local level. If we didn't hold developers and other businesses accountable (at least the ones that affect the whole community) it wouldn't be pretty. Most seem to only be concerned with the quick buck, not the long term affects... human nature I guess.

I'm not talking global warming crap; basic stuff like fire codes, street widths, building exits for emergency use.. I can imagine this kind of thing only gets worse the farther up the corporate food chain (including the buying of DC politicians).

 

Politics & religeon..... sure ways to show how the other person is wrong, eh? :cheers:

[slngsht]

Slngsht,

I can appreciate you position on the Feds, mine comes from the local level. If we didn't hold developers and other businesses accountable (at least the ones that affect the whole community) it wouldn't be pretty. Most seem to only be concerned with the quick buck, not the long term affects... human nature I guess.

I'm not talking global warming crap; basic stuff like fire codes, street widths, building exits for emergency use.. I can imagine this kind of thing only gets worse the farther up the corporate food chain (including the buying of DC politicians).

 

Politics & religeon..... sure ways to show how the other person is wrong, eh? :cheers:

 

I understand your point, and I agree that the federal government should not be run after a business model in the greed sense, but it certainly use some more sense of urgency in doing its tasks. But more importantly, I think the federal government should not at all be involved in some of the projects it has taken on over the years. If they're not in it, it is harder for them to screw it up

[MHKflyer52]

Hello All,

 

On the other hand I do not know of any corporation or company that can get big things done overnite (or very quickly) ment can and then sustain it even if their is bickering amongst the different branches of the government like Congrass and Senate or Democrats or Republicans. An example of this would be the movement of 57000+ solders and equipment to defend a small government like Kawuate or the present mess we are in in Iraq an Afganistan. Most corporations or companies would be broke or bankrupt in a mater of a day if they had to due what our government dose everday and it would cost at least three times the amount the Government would spend due to over runs and greed.