Drats...Starter advice/ID. needed..(birkin-ford question)

[southwind25]

Bugger..

 

So here i am at work, after a wonderful morning drive..and i go to take the car out at lunch..and drats...something happened to the starter..

 

it's making a sound i have never quiet heard before..sorta a grumbling gurgling sound...battery is ok...it's charged..it just really strange.

 

anyways...what starter might this be?

yes ford i know...but to fit the crossflow and the 5 speed t9?

 

birkin owners?

[JohnCh]

Do you still have the Lucas inertia starter (see picture below)? If so, pull it (should be really easy if it is like the setup in my old crossflow-powered Westfield) and see of the spring on the shaft has broken. This happened to me and produced a similar sound. I replaced it with a gear reduction starter from Dave Bean Engineering. Much lighter and worked great.

 

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/1140.JPG

 

-John

[southwind25]

nope,,thats not it..it's kinda short with what looks like a solenoid on top..

[11Budlite]

 

Sorry to hear about your troubles Robert. Here's a couple pictures of my Birkin Zetec starter just in case it's the same or similar.

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1441107932_IMG_0413.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1724982328_IMG_0427.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/618251455_IMG_0451.JPG

 

Let me know if you need any more info or photos.

 

Bruce :7drive:

[11Budlite]

You might also want to check with Esko on the USA and Birkinowners mailing lists. I think at one time he had a source for gear reduction starters.

 

Bruce :7drive:

[slomove]

Call Gustafson starters

http://gustafsonspecialty.com/

 

They have a gear reduction starter that fits the Zetec w/ Birkin bellhousing. I suppose it will fit a Crossflow, too?

Usually they sell only through distribution and for a while they supplied this to MSI but don't do that anymore.

 

For that reason they sold me one of the few they still had on the shelf direct. Forgot how much but quite cheap. After the change my hot start problems were gone immediately.

 

Gert

[Kitcat]

Don't know abt Birkins but I could not find a replacement starter for my Crossflow mounted in my 5 sp Caterham. Dave Bean's didn't work. Went to the parts store and tried everything-some teeth didn't match, some teeth matched but the body was too big to fit in the small space, or the shaft was too short, etc., etc. Finally had the starter rebuilt, then the solenoid rebuilt and then replaced.

 

Finally discovered the problem was a bad connector. Every time we'd fiddle with the system the connection would get jostled into position and we'd conclude our "solution" worked. Then a week later the car wouldn't start.

[southwind25]

double drats....

 

it might not be the starter after all...((though i REALLY appreciate the info so far).

 

i might have a couple teeth missing on the flywheel ring gear.

 

the car started fine, after i pushed it a couple feet up a hill in case it didnt. this is going to be a very busy winter!