Alaskossie Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 That was the full blow off road rally version .Even rarer bird by far. Skip, The white car at the beginning of the Clarkson Escort Cossie video was the Ford RS200, the mid-engined 4-cyl. turbo 4WD Ford Group B rally car that was built about 10 years before the Escort Cosworth. It is much rarer than the Escort Cosworth, since only 200 were built to meet homologation regs fro Grp. B. When Grp B was cancelled in 1986 due to high risk of death and injury to spectators and drivers/navigators alike, Ford marketed the leftover RS200s through Ford dealers in England. Ford disassembled about 15-20 of them for spares, and tried to sell the rest, even putting out a glossy showroom brochure for what could only be described as a thinly-disguised race car. Bob Sutherland of Colorado Springs bought a bunch of then, intending to sell them in the US as both a race car and as a licensed street car, but ran into EPA/DOT problems, and I think the only ones he actually sold here were for race only. The RS200 is at least 500 lb lighter than the Escort Cosworth (perhaps more), and in original; trim had about 220 hp. In the Evo version, the hp went past 520 hp, and the Evo version is in serious contention for being absolutely the quickest car on the road, anywhere..... I know a fellow in Portland who owns both a standard and an Evo version of the Ford RS200, and he drives them on the street, on dealer plates...... Today, the going price for a standard RS200 (if you can find one) is about $100,000, with the Evo version another $25,000 or so. Tom Meacham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskossie Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here ya go Tom;funny thing is he asks Ford exactly the same question at the end of the vid. How the hell did you get that to Alaska, is it on the road? Oooohh I found one for sale in the US&A...I really do need to get a life:o http://www.geocities.com/johnnie_tsunami/ DB6, My son and I drove the 1995 Escort Cossie to Alaska in the late summer of 1998 (see outdated website at http://www.meachams.com/cossies/) My Cossie has only 24,000 miles on it, and is presently off the road with a broken fuel line that is very hard to get at to fix. My car originally has the 220 hp 2-liter engine, but I had it modified at Eggenberger Motor Sport in Lyss, Switzerland before it was shipped. The engine was enlarged (bored and stroked) to 2.3 liters, the engine management system was altered, and the car now has 378 hp at 5500 rpm, and 435 lb./ft. of torque at 3500 rpm. Enough power to shred the stock gearbox, if I'm not careful... Tom Meacham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Tom, I saw one of Bob Sutherland's Group B RS200s at one of his annual charity car shows quite some time ago. He had a great collection of cars, I was sorry to see the collection broken up and auctioned off after his death. Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB6 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Tom, I saw one of Bob Sutherland's Group B RS200s at one of his annual charity car shows quite some time ago. He had a great collection of cars, I was sorry to see the collection broken up and auctioned off after his death. Skip Here ya go The "Killer B" http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=103&i=7138 I would buy one just for those retina burning lights. Talk about candle power,lol. PS, notice those odd little cars behind it in the first and second pics????:yesnod: and this is good too: http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Group B was extreme! "... In the 1986 season Henri Toivonen lapped the Estoril circuit in a Lancia Delta S4 during the Portuguese rally. His fastest lap would have qualified him in the sixth position of the F1 Grand Prix that same season.":shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKANSA Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hey what about the ford f-series pickup (80's-00's)? Ford trucks are known for strength and endurance my 95 f-350 has power, strength,endrance(exept the mpg) and it looks damn good ask southwind25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjslutz Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I had a few Dodge Dually diesels and a ford F350 Dually diesel that I used along with a few Diesel large motor homes for towing collector cars. All were made in the US and were great. With that being said, the few US built cars I owned were a disappointment to me. They were likely a good value to move people from point A to B though. I also had a few F150’s that were good bang for the buck if you liked pick-up trucks and had a need. After a few Honda cars I had purchased for my wife, I purchased her a 08 Civic all loaded up with Nav, and leather. It has been a big disappointment, @ 12K miles the cheap tires were trash. With 4 people it would bottom out on normal road dips that other cars would not. I just installed Koni adjustable and added a pair of Eibach springs to the rear, problem solved, but no support from Honda with this. I just purchased a VW TDI Sports wagon I plan on using to tow the 7 with. I only have 45 miles on it, but love the low end torque. I fear with all we have done to move manufacturing to China we have created a powerful need for fuel there. We are not allowed to drill in the US and it will kick us in the A**. If the wonderful government would keep it hands off the private sector, the market would force US car makers to build cars that sell, or follow the ones that were blind. My tax $$ should not be used for this. My .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taber10 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If the wonderful government would keep it hands off the private sector, the market would force US car makers to build cars that sell, or follow the ones that were blind. My tax $$ should not be used for this. My .02 While I don't disagree with the basic thought of this original thread, and I definitely agree with the quote above. But I guess I have to give Ford some credit--other than for the Zetec in my Caterham--because they didn't take any of the Federal "Bailout" money that Chrysler and GM got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Ebrahimi Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 My opinion is that the large truck market is the only place the shrinking 3 have maintained their market share. Toyota is making in roads with the new Tundra platform, but it will be a while before they start to really take over any market share, especially with them not offering a diesel option(which blows my mind considering they are a leader in diesel engines worldwide). Honda is and will always be a car company IMO. Just look at the ridgeline, unibody, awd, no low-range. It's a hacked up station wagon on 'roids I think GM is making progress, the Corvette, new Camaro, Sky, and Solstice are all good cars from what I can gather, and they have the image to go with it. The next 10 years will be interesting to say the least. I can only pray that some semblence of free enterprise is maintained in the saving of the shrinking 3......but I'm not holding my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Budlite Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Honda is and will always be a car company IMO. Just look at the ridgeline, unibody, awd, no low-range. It's a hacked up station wagon on 'roids Arya - OMG that hurts!! All this time I was calling it my Big Bad Man Machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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