Climate experts

[BusaNostra]

So...what are they saying?

..... those global warming politicians in Washington?

 

Another big batch of snow will be dumped tomorrow.

 

Have not seen Al Gore, media not talking holes in ozone these days.

[yellowss7]

The Sky is falling, The sky is falling, The sky is falling!!!:willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

 

Oops, Nevermind, it's just Snow. MORE DAMN Snow!!:puke:

 

Come on Busa, The Left coasters have assured us Global Warming is real.

 

They wouldn't mislead us would they? :ack:

 

Tom

[rzempel]

The way I heard it is that global warming is real. It's just not as strong an effect as 230 years of grumpy old white men saying, "It'll be a cold day in h*ll before a black man is President."

[MoPho]

Well gee, seeing how you guys are so smart, you should have also known that extreme winter (and summer) weather actually supports the concept of global warming.

Additionally, weather and climate are two different things with climate being the average of weather over at least a 30-year period. So a particularly cold year or a lot of snow does not refute the global warming theory.

 

Now this left coaster also was a right coaster and my belief in climate change falls somewhere in the middle (probably like most normal people), but here's the thing:

 

If we follow the lead of the global warming scientists and they turn out to be wrong, the worst that happens is we spent some money, developed new technologies (that create new jobs and make people money), have a cleaner environment, better air quality, more efficient cars, more efficient forms of other transportation, cleaner energy sources, etc., and a bunch of teabaggers get to moan that somehow our "rights" were trampled and that our tax money was spent on something they didn't support.

 

If we don't follow the lead of the global warming scientists and they turn out to be right, we're f**ked! :seeya:

Edited February 10, 2010 by MoPho

[Mondo]

Well not really us..... just our grandkids;)

When speaking of climate, even 30 years is a speck in time. The earth has been warmer and cooler. We have to be careful as some of those drastic looking charts of a few decades actually start at the coldest time in a century so they will naturally be skewed. Also, the climate will change... it's never stayed the same. So how much influence we can have is the real question.

I pretty much think along your lines Mopho, but mainly for clean air. It's pretty bad here in the armpit of the Central Valley. We have to move away from fossil fuels for a variety of environmental and political reasons. I'm trying to do my part with the installation of solar panels this past summer.

Though I'm not really sold on the "cap & trade" solution. As expensive as some propose, I'm afraid it would be cheaper just to move people over the next hundred years to higher ground and to the cold climate areas that will warm up.

[DeanG]

About 2 years ago friend of mine (chemical oceanographer) visited the arctic aboard a USCG research ship. He was shocked about how little ice there was compared to his last visit of about 20 years before. Yes only two data points. Something appears to be happening. The cause is hidden, the result is well known.

[gjslutz]

Your friend should have went south where the ice is increasing.

 

I'm not so sure CA. has all the answers as they have spent almost as much as D.C. chasing green with our tax money.

[BusaNostra]

If snows can only talk like Scott Brown......

[GBOLT]

2 data points is about all the UN used. And the brains in UK are not sharp enough to keep the data to let scientific debate process work. Conservation, cleaner renewable energy sources, less pollution- all good. Cap and trade is all a farce.

[Hyper]

Obviously the global warming is all on the west coast. Apparently it's the warmest winter in years. So warm that they have to helicopter in snow for the Vancouver Olympics. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/vancouver/2010-02-08-weather-concerns_N.htm

[yellowss7]

They can have all they want from my place. 3rd 20+ inch snow storm this winter.

 

We had 28.7 inches last Saturday, and we are getting 22+ today. No where to put it.

 

Anyone see Al Gore lately? I'd like to ring his neck.:toetap05:

 

Global Warming my A$$

 

Tom