healthcare repeal

[Mondo]

WASHINGTON—Citing a mutually shared vision of health care in America, congressional Republicans and the deadly bone-marrow cancer leukemia announced a joint effort Wednesday to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the historic new bill that extends health benefits to 32 million Americans nationwide.

 

"Republicans have no greater ally in this fight than leukemia," said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), who was flanked by Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), and the abnormal increase in white blood cells. "Denying insurance to Americans with preexisting conditions and ensuring that low-income Americans stand no chance of receiving quality health care are just a few of the core beliefs that the GOP and leukemia share."

 

"And believe me, if anyone is angrier than the Republican Party that children can no longer be denied coverage for having preexisting conditions, it's leukemia." DeMint continued. "We're a match made in heaven."

 

In the coming weeks, Republicans and leukemia will travel the country in an effort to diminish support for the increasingly popular bill, which GOP sources said goes against everything that Republicans and the massive accumulation of toxic cells stand for.

 

 

This bone marrow aspirate smear of precursor B-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia fully supports overturning the new legislation.

According to party leaders, all forms of the deadly blood disorder, including T-cell prolymphocytic leukemia, hairy cell leukemia, and large granular lymphocytic leukemia will lend their support to the Republican effort.

 

"I look around and I see Sen. Bob Bennett, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, eosinophilic and megakaryoblastic leukemia, and Sen. Pat Roberts, and I think, 'This is what the Republican Party is all about,'" Sen. McConnell said. "We don't like this new bill. We don't like that it will cut the national deficit by $1.3 trillion over the next 20 years. We don't like that it's now illegal for insurance companies to suddenly drop a parent for getting deathly ill. That's why we're so very proud to be working with leukemia."

 

While chronic leukemia was reportedly worried about how its association with the Republican Party would affect its public image, the destructive pathogen was ultimately swayed by language in the final bill that offers small business owners tax incentives to provide health care to their employees.

 

"Getting chronic on board was key," one Republican strategist said. "It made it politically viable for acute [leukemia] to join the repeal the effort."

 

A longtime ally of the Republican Party, leukemia also supported GOP efforts to stop President Bill Clinton from passing sweeping health care reform in 1994. A decade later it endorsed President George W. Bush's Medicare legislation, which effectively forced many senior citizens to pay full cost for prescription drugs. And in 1971 it supported President Richard Nixon's escalation of the Vietnam War into Laos.

 

"Leukemia has always been a disease that veers to the right," said Newsweek columnist Ezra Klein, adding that Republicans have also sought out the support of high-profile illnesses such as sickle-cell anemia, type 1 diabetes, and sepsis. "And at the end of the day, you can't ignore the fact that this deadly blood disorder has a lot to lose if the bill succeeds."

 

Thus far, Republicans and leukemia are confident that the bill will be repealed.

 

"In 2010 leukemia and the Republican Party will make history," a spokesman for the illness said. "Because years from now, when people look back and ask who was on the right side of the issue, they'll remember the day that Republicans and leukemia came together to make a real, permanent difference in the lives of millions of Americans."

[MHKflyer52]

So the point is?

It is just starting and the insurance companies are already looking to screw the public even more and to protect their bottom line and shareholders.

The new health care policy is good but also it is not very well though out as people are now starting to see and it is a shame for everyone as it will cost us all in the long run.

A number of Big Insurance Companies have publicaly stated that they will not offer insurance coverage for new born children due to the projected cost that will be incurred in the feature because the new health care law states they can not be denied insurance due to a preexisting medical condition as a child (birth to 19yrs of age) and new law became effective yesterday 09-23-10 and that is just wrong that the Insurance Companies can get away with action like this but that is just my belief and how I feel.

[Mondo]

It's just a little sarcasm about how Republicans, and some Democrats, are more interested in helping insurance companies (and their lobbyists) than the American

people.

When it comes to american's health, I'm a univeral healthcare commie, pinko, socialist...

Part of the problem for business is that insurance for employees becomes a competitive tool and we get into a downward spiral as companies cut insurance like they did pensions/retirement benefits to compete with their peers. I don't even want to get into overseas labor issues.

I think it would actually be better for businesses (at least home grown "small business") if this cost was the same for all employers.

As long as we have "middle men" health insurance companies trying to provide the least care for the most profit (with the help of politicians from both sides) I'm not optimistic.

This is a big healthcare change and it should be expected that things will need to be modified. We need good oversight too (another thing I have concerns about). Also, there's nothing that says private insurance companies can't offer higher care or fill in shortcomings with their policies.

Bottom line, I'd rather have politicians answering to us rather than health insurance companies answering to their shareholders when it comes to something as important as healthcare.

Ok, off my soapbox.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Mondo

[BusaNostra]

Yeah, I want to see it repealed. I want to be in the same benefits before the OBOSO healthcare.

I don't want the government forcing me to buy expensive health insurance, at the same time contribute to 30,000 millions who don't work, lazy and gets the free ride.

As much as I want to see the government gets out of my life & has limited role to its citizen.

Fix the healthcare for those 30,000, slowly, accurately and not for free. Leave me alone. I will take care myself.

[Kitcat]

I don't think the government is forcing you to buy expensive health care-I think you are allowed to buy the least expensive you can find. But ya gotta have something.

 

It's sort of like car insurance in Ohio, if you don't have it, you don't drive.

 

Pretending you will never get sick or injured (and then heading to a super expensive ER when you do-and where the rest of us are paying your freight thru higher premiums) isn't much of a solution.

[BusaNostra]

I hate free for all stuff. I hate European free for all style welfare system.

 

We used to have a free for all park, low lifes invaded, ruined, graffiti, drinking, fighting and stealing at the park.

To make the story short, they renovated the park, imposed a $5.00 fee at the gate, a security camera, planted a guard at the entrace and a volunteer beat. Today, the park is the most beautiful park in the area. Weddings & family picnic happens every week at the park. Community are proud and people are safe.

No more hangouts......no more crimes.

 

That's the meaning of "Pursuit of happiness"

Work and earn it!!

Edited September 28, 2010 by BusaNostra

[Mondo]

There are a lot of other options as well that work to keep public parks clean/safe.

 

Using examples of scumbags that work the system to deny something like healthcare to law abiding american citizens less fortunate than you is like throwing the baby out with the dirty water. Deal with the scumbags, don't kick those that are already down.

 

You really think there are 30,000 million (30 billion?) without insurance or 30,000... big difference and both are way off the mark. I know we can argue numbers all day, but this seems to be more in the ballpark:

 

"..Roughly 46.3 million people in the United States lacked coverage in 2008, the U.S. Census Bureau reported last week, up from 45.7 million in 2007..."

 

That's a lot of people "who don't work, lazy and gets the free ride" in your words. I bet the majority work, are recently unemployed or have a disability.

 

 

I've always thought there should be more incentives in government to weed out abuse or cut costs. We should let people (public and private) get a cut of any savings they can find. That's the capitalist way.

 

The examples stated by you sound more like the meaning of "I got mine... screw you".

Edited September 28, 2010 by Mondo

[BusaNostra]

"The examples stated by you sound more like the meaning of "I got mine... screw you".

 

 

 

Nope! I did not get mine for free, you missed my word: Work and earn it!!

I bust my azz, go home late & tired to meet the end....I'm not afraid to pay what I needed for my family to survive.

I got to do what I got to do. Ain't waiting for free stuffs.

 

Here is the testimonial for those lazy, free riders and fleas.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly-half-of-US-households-apf-1105567323.html?x=0&.v=1

 

Who else do you think will pay for your free rides?

Ain't free baby. There are only a couple of people paying taxes and busting their azzez.

The article said...."The result is a tax system that exempts almost half the country from paying for programs that benefit everyone, including national defense, public safety, infrastructure and education"

 

Sales Tax

Hotel Tax

School Tax

Liquor Tax

Luxury Tax

Excise Taxes

Property Tax

Cigarette Tax

Medicare Tax

Inventory Tax

Car Rental Tax

Real Estate Tax

Well Permit Tax

Fuel Permit Tax

Inheritance Tax

Road Usage Tax

CDL license Tax

State Income Tax

Food License Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

death tax

Funeral tax

These people have been living high on the hog expecting the governments to pay their way through life while not paying enough in taxes.

I don't mind to help those without but we can no longer afford it....somewhere in between we need to compromise. That compromise is to work & study hard.

Free stuff is sucks....don't work. Free riders abused the system. Everyone has to contribute to make this country afloat.

Edited September 29, 2010 by BusaNostra

[leeper]

You already are and have always been paying for those who don't. This is a control measure and I have little doubt that even the greatest supporters of government run healthcare would and do choke at some of the content in the current plan.

But here's the thing. No one that has all of the information can deny the inability sustain our current path. With that in mind, let's solve the problem or at least work towards a solution. Standing back and just saying no just leaves the problem for future generations. There will always be people out there trying to abuse the system and the amount of resources that you would expend to stop it would make the war on drugs look like an effective plan. Mitigate, adapt and remember that there is always more than a single option but if you never try to make your surroundings better (even if it's just for you, yours and what you come in contact with) then why are you here?

 

BTW - pluralism is not the ability to say no in multiple languages.

[ChristinaMarie]

There is another way to go about making sure all Americans get coverage without this bill. And let's not forget--this is not free. But aside from all that, it's not a God-given right to have health insurance coverage. It is; however, your right to choose not to have it--but that right has been taken away from us all.

Edited November 19, 2010 by ChristinaMarie

[slomove]

......it's not a God-given right to have health insurance coverage.......

 

Agreed. But I think it is one of the things that distinguishes a developed modern country from a 3rd world dump.

 

The problem in my view is not so much in the fact that insurance will be mandated but that the health and health insurance industry are inefficient and ripping us all off. The recent law is doing little to fix that and with this industry pulling the strings in Washington it will not change soon.

 

Many other western countries are providing excellent health care to pretty much all citizens at a fraction of what is being spent now in the US for only part of the population (per person). If that could be improved the cost problem would go away. But my hope is slim that is ever going to happen.

 

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[scannon]

Gert,

 

Thanks for posting that graph. That is truly mind boggling.

[slomove]

I am pretty sure some of the data is debatable. And I don't really care about the life expectancy numbers since they are also influenced by life styles and basically say whatever you pay (and if some basic care is provided) you will live to about 80 plus minus a few years.

 

I find it disgusting that a system is entrenched here that resists any change and leeches prosperity out of the society for no obvious benefit. And then some politicos helping them dupe the public are talking about the "best health care system in the world" with a straight face. Yeah, right. Sky is falling if we dare change anything.

Edited November 19, 2010 by slomove