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Bought on a whim. '97 Saab 96 Two Stroke Project Car


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Nick: I can only echo Xcarguy's comment: "Awesome!!!". Cant be a lot of those still running around. With that huge "lump":) of an engine, it must weigh....900 pounds, maybe? Anyhow, what a car! I never heard of it-or of a Deek. My Caterham is starting to sound totally pedestrian.

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The entire car (without me in it) weighs a bit more than 900 pounds. The engine is fairly compact. I can pick it up - not easily, but I can. Remember, it's only 3 cylinders and they were 750cc and 850cc in displacement. My engines are bored out to 940cc and ported per SAAB factory Sport & Rally specs from the early sixties.

 

 

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Nick,

 

Do you have a video of that car with sound? I'd like to hear what it sounds like with an expansion chamber exhaust. How much HP does it put out? Is it a mixer or pumper engine?

 

Thanks for the contact info.

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My engines are oil-injected units - the chromed oil tank is visible just aft of the tall swirl pot. I do, however, add a little oil in the gas to help lubricate the top end. As for power, we took a 40hp motor and coaxed up to the 85hp range. I've heard stories of guys in Sweden getting a hundred or so out of them but that wouldn't be a very streetable (or long-lived) engine.

 

I'll have to see what I have in the way of video/audio. I do have a lot of cool in-car race footage from various Monterey Historics and other events but they don't give you the true sound.

 

I can tell you that when I run it with the expansion chamber open it is very, very loud. I love it.

 

Here we are on the cover of Autoweek from a few years back. Nice surprise to find in the mailbox.

 

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I want to get it on the road with the two stroke and see what living with a slow, noisy car with a smelly engine is like.

 

If I recall corruptly, the SAAB owners' group for those cars was 'Smoke Signals.'

 

The freewheel is your friend but don't neglect the brakes!

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I put some Rislone in the cylinders a week or two ago. Today I checked it and I can move the crankshaft (by pressing on the fan belt and using the fan) about 5 degrees where before it was frozen solid in place.

 

I put a new batch in and will let it sit for a couple more weeks and see if it helps provide some more movement. I have other projects to finish before I can bring the Saab into the shop, its still in the trailer.

 

I'm concerned about taking it into the mountains once I get it running. If I can't use compression braking I will be relying on four drum brakes. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. :D

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Just bought a really neat 1960 DKW Junior to go with the wagon. This time, it's in really good condition with 29,000 original miles. I must say that the public reaction to an adorable little car that looks likes a baby '56 ford belching blue smoke can be less than favorable or mixed at best. Some love it, others are disgusted by it. It's not so bad once it warms up, but the first few minutes of driving create some spectacular plumes. :)

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You probably know this already, but that engine failure sounds like what happens when you don't free-wheel down hill in two-stroke, as Andy B mentioned.... something to be mindful of once you've done the rebuild. .

 

I had a college room-mate in 1973 who had one of these. His was a later model with the same body but the 4-stroke engine. It still had the free-wheeling feature (sprag clutch?). It had a lever under the instrument panel that would lock and unlock that feature. We were driving one day and I reached under and flipped the lever. He couldn't shift gears. It turned out the only manual trans he ever drove was that car and he never learned the clutch technique all the rest of us learned.

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Just curious as to how the Saab engine was coming along. I've been enjoying driving the DKW wagon a lot lately. The exhaust note from the two-stroke is formidable as it whips up to about 9000 rpm, while the car fumbles along. Quite a spectacle.

 

When I discovered that the two stroke engine has a modular crankshaft and requires special jigs and presses to rebuild I lost interest in the project and sold the car for a small loss. I was mainly interested in rebuilding the engine myself and wasn't likely to keep a car around with only 45 HP.

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