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That is true. This price is much easier to swallow for a multi use performance vehicle than an extra toy. Not to mention the complications of a limited run, limited support, Lucas filled British roadster.

2022 NJMP was right around the time that I was taking delivery for the new family member. We were on the waiting list for 9 months and the Mrs was not amused at the logistics of taking that delivery at NJMP instead of the predetermined location where we could do a proper PDI.

I've dealt with people like Bruce for decades now and my only expectations is entertainment and their public embarrassment via their hypocrisy, which I got. Nuance isn't their strong point. Thanks for playing.

Wait so your compliments should be judged on YOUR INTENT only but my compliments should be judged on PERCEPTION? but not my intent? This is preposterously unfair. I've stated over and over again my positive intention just like you stated yours. Either yours can be judged upon reception and then so can be mine or BOTH will be judged on INTENT only. You can't have it both ways, but you certainly are trying hard to. And it's not novels, it's me quoting you and calling you out on your own words which you do not back up or stand by. So I state again. Pick a lane.

Just so we are clear on the goal posts This sounded like a joke to you??? To me it certainly reads like "polite insistence, clear and simple"

Wow for a guy that demands respectful conversation you have made a number of personal attacks on me as a person while I have done nothing but give you compliments AND for a guy that loves to defend "freedom of speech" [on a private non government forum??] you love to tell others how they should speak. (Pick a lane here...) You don't seem to like my compliments and chose bad things from those people. I have never mentioned anything but positive attributes of passion and leadership, everything else is your words reading into the persona, not my compliment. My parallels are factual. Just because you close your eyes and claim that it's dark outside because you don't see the light, doesn't change the fact that it's daylight outside. Let's keep moving goal posts. "It's not an insult!!!" - Croc says it's a definite insult "You guys should have told me to change!!!" - 3 people have told you to change "I thought you guys were joking!!!" -...... You're right, you "couldnt imagine" comparing somebody to a very controversial figure as a compliment being taken as anything but one. Sympathy and empathy require imagination of putting yourself in other person shoes. You "couldn't imagine" that when you said what you said. However a good example is when somebody forced you into those shoes and you no longer had to "imagine" anything, now you lived it and guess what? You discovered how horrible it can be to be compared to somebody controversial even if they say that you should pick the best qualities of that controversial person! "Oh my". You certainly didn't seem to like it. There I saved you from having to try to use imagination and brought a horse to water.

@Bruce K Just because "you don't think this is the compliment I think it is", you need to see that these are "my compliments" and I never referenced anything negative and are indeed "favorable". I highlighted the positive qualities I think you or anybody else should be proud of to have regardless of the source. After all "we need free speech to be truly free, not contorted into attacks." Right? How can people go around and be offended while "free speech, thats truly free" exists? What kind of liberal paradise do you want this to be? As far as Trump, I think you missed the point where I highlighted that there are quite a number of parallels between both sexual abuser and responsible for deaths of people as part of being a strong leader and commander in chief requires. You're blaming us for you not altering the compliment? My very first reply was a hint that you should change it. You doubled down. Others have said you should change it. You stuck to it. Croc has said "That is a definite insult" and you STILL didn't change your simile. You own this, don't try to brush it off on others as their responsibility especially when it was clearly indicated that your comment isn't "the compliment you think it is".

This is less politics and more nuance of understanding how a) Freedom of speech works and b) Consequences of your words not being perceived as you intended and being more mindful of language use with that in mind. With a slight hint of irony of 1) Being outraged at the fact that people to read into their "compliment" too much, while 2) At the same time , without skipping a beat, being outraged themselves at a "compliment" they got by reading into it too much.

Santa Test Drives a Caterham 7 Directors Cut beautiful scenery

From the Caterham Town Hall poll

This could be an interesting discussion This screenshot is pulled from one of the Town Halls that Caterham has had and the polls they run

Strange. I see it too in both. Very hard to pinpoint whether I see them because they are cached or because they still work. Strangely I almost never link to the source and embed from source. I Copy and Paste the image which should make it an attachment and override any source issues.

For a car enthusiast with means, owning a real life F1 car, running or not is some of the biggest bragging rights one can have. Operating one however is a magnitude more expensive than having one as an ornament, not to mention even pro drivers struggle with operating an F1 machine.

Does the image not show up for you? I can see it... It keeps happening to my pictures lets try this

Why are you telling me I have thin skin? I haven't complained about anything other than the fact that you freaked out at my compliment like a "snowflake" as some people like to refer to such. Snowflakes are typically known for finding simple language "offensive". Its unusual to be offended by a compliment however. You don't think Croc should have been and I don't think you should have been. If you're having trouble finding parallels in this discussion, I'd suggest a new prescription. I personally think a snowflake is a complement too, they are beautiful and whimsical. I don't know where you're going off with these wild accusations, context of my post is clear, to tender a complement by selecting two people with strong attributes of passion and leadership. I've never seen somebody display as much passion as you with the award winning Caterham you used to have, which you've posted the beloved pictures of a number of times. For the record, Trump is responsible for plenty of decision that ended in death as commander in chief and being a friend of Epstien and calling him a great man isn't exactly a good look in regards to pedophilia, not to mention his questionable actions and words to his own daughter when she was underage and his alleged accusations for the beauty competition walking in on them undressed and unannounced. Why are you telling me to stay away from things? Are you suppressing my freedom of speech???

Reserve not met @ $130K+ for a rolling chassis. Interesting what the reserve was. Cool lawn ornament however.

Will likely be taken down in the future Wheeler Dealers - Elvis Revives the car Caterham 7

Yeah limited to members in registration. Does anybody want to tape it?

@Bruce K It's my complement. I'm posing, in my mind, a clearly favorable comparison to a historical figure and another very passionate one who was very driven by his passion and hobbies. Saddam was a great leader who did a lot for the Iraqi economy, energy industries and infrastructure. But this stuff about being uncouth? You'd have to grind my comments into fine powder and place them in an "uncouth" cookie cutter for them to have any resemblance of being "uncouth". For being compared to strong leader and a passionate hobbyist (Saddam Hussein & Earl Brian Bradley), I believe a simple thank you will suffice.

1) Free speech doesn't mean what you think it means. There is no Government involved here. 2) To me you're totally a mix of Saddam Hussein & Earl Brian Bradley and I mean that in the most complementary way possible. I expect you to appreciate this complementary comparison. A "thank you, I'm honored" will do. 3) Time to split this off, see ya'll in the other thread.

I'm not quite certain that's the complement you think it is. I'd proclaim that he's more a Dalai Lama figure for the community.

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wow Croc is single handily responsible for the largest amount of 7 seekers finding their dream 7 in the US out of any other person or dealer. Don't know what sort of award this warrants but he certainly deserves one.

This might have been the blue SLR that was recently sold in MA. I can reach out to the owner, he's on Facebook