JohnCh Posted August 23, 2024 Posted August 23, 2024 I recently picked up the newly available Beeline Moto II, which is the evolution of the Moto navigation device they released a few years ago. Other than @Austin David's post this morning showing an original Moto on his dash, and an older mention by @SENC, I don't recall reading anything about Beeline here, so thought I'd share my initial impressions and raise awareness. The Moto II pairs with your phone to supply simplified navigation on a 37mm screen. This info includes direction and distance to the next turn, current speed limit ,and how far into your journey you've travelled. Additionally, small LEDs blink once when you're 200 meters from the upcoming turn, and twice when you're just 50 meters away. You can toggle through other screens such as speedometer, journey progress, battery levels of both the Beeline and your phone, and a compass mode that always points towards your destination -- perfect for exploring an area without becoming hopelessly lost. It packs a lot into a small space while allowing you to keep your phone in your pocket where it's less of a distraction. Thus far, I'm really impressed. Rerouting works great when there is a data signal, yet only GPS is required to follow a preplanned route saved to the Beeline app. Just the thing when you're blatting off the grid. Unlike a phone, it doesn't look out of place in a se7en, and because it is so light (just 42 grams for the plastic version) a robust mount isn't required. In my case, I 3D printed a magnetic mount that leverages a fishing magnet on the back of the dash and a very thick, embedded steel washer in the base of the printed part. It's very easy to mount/unmount and doesn't leave a visible trace when removed. Thus far it's held up to g-forces, but I'll stress test it more this weekend. If there is any creeping over the course of a drive, I'll add some friction material to the base and/or magnet face. For those interested, more information is available here: https://beeline.co/ 1
Austin David Posted August 23, 2024 Posted August 23, 2024 Great review! I still love my original Beeline. The routing / app is great, better than others I've tried (like, a dozen different apps) especially for longer, mutli-point routes. Anyone can use the app "free" without a device, if you'd like to try it. The upside of the device is (as noted above) it's small and easy to mount, and it is designed to work well in direct sunlight. My phone does NOT handle direct sunlight well, or even almost-direct like under the tonneau cover. @JohnCh i'm curious what you think of battery life; or more specifically, if the Moto II retained the "way more than actually needed" battery. My Moto claims "30 hours" ish, but that's ACTIVE hours. I only actually charge it every month or so. I worried that I would need to solve a wiring problem in my car, but that has not been a concern.
JohnCh Posted August 23, 2024 Author Posted August 23, 2024 The battery is much bigger in the Moto II (600mAh vs. 400mAh) but the bigger screen and other features appear to require more juice. They claim 14 hours of normal use and never less than 9 hours if the backlight is continually running at its highest setting vs. 20 hours and 10 hours for the Moto. Interestingly where they state a backlight off time of 30 hours for the Moto, they don't provide an equivalent for the Moto II. It's exceedingly rare for me to do over 8 hours of actual driving time on a tour, so I don't see battery life being an issue. Besides, I have a USB charging port on the side of the glovebox and carry a charging cable for my phone that also works with the Moto II, so if battery life is ever a problem, I'll simply plug it in and continue on. Or that's the plan.
hahuang65 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 @JohnCh curious if there are any updates or changes you've made since this post. I'm curious about getting a Moto II and would like to know if there are any similar mounting solutions to yours that are off the shelf. I don't have a 3D printer.
Austin David Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Mine (moto 1) is stuck on with VHB tape and the bracket. I could print whatever if you cover shipping. I like the bracket because it puts the gauge up above and to the right of the wheel, where it's closer to my line of sight.
JohnCh Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 9 hours ago, hahuang65 said: @JohnCh curious if there are any updates or changes you've made since this post. I'm curious about getting a Moto II and would like to know if there are any similar mounting solutions to yours that are off the shelf. I don't have a 3D printer. The original mount worked fine, but I did a new version that placed it above the scuttle in my line of site. Details and photos are here: https://www.throttle-steer.com/the-blog/september-14th-2024
Austin David Posted September 15 Posted September 15 that looks great. I like the original mount because it can fold down and under my tonneau cover, which I use a lot. Grabbed a couple quick shots of the mount this morning while tuning ... note that I usually just leave the device attached, I had it off this weekend to charge it and haven't moved it back.
hahuang65 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Thanks for the help guys. I may still pursue this in the future, because it seems like a great thing to have at eye level for just navigation. But I think I need to figure out how/where I'm going to mount my phone first. I've been looking at and it's got a great suggestion, so I'm going to try that first.
Austin David Posted September 16 Posted September 16 fwiw I also have hte phone, VHB-taped to the right of my wheel, approximately not blocking the oil pressure, water gauge, and blinker switch. I use a scosche magnet mount and the phone has not departed yet.
hahuang65 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Just now, Austin David said: fwiw I also have hte phone, VHB-taped to the right of my wheel, approximately not blocking the oil pressure, water gauge, and blinker switch. I use a scosche magnet mount and the phone has not departed yet. Yeah I may end up doing that but I was hoping to place the phone where that netting is in your picture.
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