RGTorque Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 hello, so i finally got around to getting the paperwork done for my car. i figure since the car has been titled prior in another state i should be ok... i go out to the local auto tags place, they take one look at the title and tell me to go get it inspected at one of these (gives me a list) inspection places :banghead: . willing to give it another go, i drive down the street to another tag place. the take the title and issue me a tag on the spot . so now i just need to "inspect" the car. i have my local friend and mechanic write me up some stickers and send my on my way. now i am beginning to worry. if the state sends the title back and im forced to go to the inspection station its going to cost me big money for the car to pass. at this point i don't have the following : mirrors, bumpers, reverse lights, obd2 scan port, full windshield, wipers, yada yada. some of the issues are remedied easier then others. im confident that if i will have to add all of this crap to the car to make it pass i will just sell it off :cry: . while i LOVE the car, i just don't think i will be able to afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I would spend some time understanding PA requirements and code - if you drive on the street and you are lacking all the parts of a PA road legal car, the police will stop you, issue you a citation and force you to go to inspection. It's one of those things - sooner or later you have to deal with it. The question you need to answer: of all the things missing, how many of those are required by state law? You might try to find others in your area that have titled a "kitcar" There may be certain exemptions (such as the OBDII port) and tips that can save you time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon W. Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 What does your title list as year, and make? My title says, make: spec constr, year: blank I didn't need bumpers. I sent a photo of an old Lotus 7 with the MV-426b application as an example of the original car being replicated. If the year is blank, there is no emissions inspec required so ODBII port is not required. I think a windshield/wipers and reverse light are required. (At least my mechanic required them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Roman. It's been 7 years since I went thru the process and there have been some new regs. I believe that reverse lights are not specified unless you have them then they must work. As for Windshileds, ... the following is from the Pa specialty vehicle inspection code. (2) Check the windshield and reject if one or more of the following apply: (i) A windshield is less than 7 inches in vertical height on a street rod. (ii) A windshield is less than 12 inches in vertical height, or the vertical height is less than what was originally designed, on a reconstructed or specially constructed vehicle. (iii) The windshields and side windows or openings do not allow the driver minimum outward horizontal vision capability of 90° from each side of vertical plane passing through fore and aft centerline of vehicle. The specialty vehicle inspection says that you need front and rear bumpers, but I found this reg... 1992 Amendment. Act 174 amended subsec. ©. § 4536. Bumpers. No person shall operate any vehicle upon a highway without bumpers of a type specified by regulations of the department in both the front and rear unless the vehicle was originally designed and manufactured to be used without bumpers. This section shall not apply to any special mobile equipment, commercial implement of husbandry or implement of husbandry that is not so equipped by the original manufacturer. The driver of a commercial implement of husbandry equipped with vehicular hazard signal lamps shall use the signals when the vehicle is traveling below the speed limit on any highway if the vehicle is not equipped with a rear bumper. (June 23, 1982, P.L.605, No.171, eff. imd.; Dec. 18, 1992, P.L.1411, No.174, eff. 60 days; May 20, 1993, P.L.30, No.10, eff. 60 days) Don't know what water that will hold with the inspection site though. Hopefully, your title gets thru without the specialty inspection site requirement. Oh, and inspection does require at least one rear view mirror. I'll keep researching too. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 mirrors would be a good idea though. i can't wait till i finally get my reverse light functional this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Did some more checking. Seems windhield minimum is 7 inches if orginally specified by a recognizied manufacturer...??? (b) Requirements. Glazing shall meet following requirements: (1) A windshield may not be less than 7 inches in vertical height on a street rod and 12 inches vertical height on reconstructed vehicles and specially constructed vehicles. If the original body configuration provided by a recognized manufacturer had a windshield of less than 12 inches, reconstructed vehicles and specially constructed vehicles may use the original windshield size, except that this size may not be less than 7 inches. the Bumper exemption seems to hold. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 now what to do with the obd2 scan port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I haven't seen any reference to that in the regs. If you drive less than 5000 miles a year, I believe you can be exempted from the emission test. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 Tom, in case i need bumpers, would you be able to lend me your old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Ahhhh, they were stolen... Yeah, that's it they were stolen officer. I can tell you how to make an inexpensive set. But based on the info I just dug up, I think you're out of the woods on the bumper issue. That's why I put the details of the code in the post for you. So you could have it handy when you take it in. Tom http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/2094366622_left side with bumpers and doors.jpghttp://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1171556042_Front bumper photo.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locostv8 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Here is a brochure I bought off Ebay which helped in pre inspection discussions with the inspection station. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-LOTUS-SEVEN-SERIES-1-ORIGINAL-IMP-BROCHURE-58-60_W0QQitemZ320178863154QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://locostusa.com/forums/files/imp4_179.jpg http://locostusa.com/forums/files/imp3_147.jpg http://locostusa.com/forums/files/imp2_196.jpg http://locostusa.com/forums/files/imp1_254.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Good news!! Im glad i found a nice girl at the VANS AUTOTAGS on street rd and york rd. that had never seen an "assembled" title. While filling in my paperwork she asked me what the make was and what she should put in model, i just blurted out 2007 lotus... She then gave me a license plate, temp registration and sent me on my way. Well yesterday came the title and it says 2007 lotus :hurray: . Im hoping my actual registration comes through and i will be over the last hurdel with this beast. That way i wont have to deal with any sort of state million point inspection. Im off now to vacation, 12 day cruise. hope to see you guys on the streets in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :thumbs: :party: :seeya: have a great trip. See you in the spring. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solder_guy Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 A cruise is always better when you have your Seven waiting for you when you get home! Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 hello again from a slightly tanner seven owner . i just got home an am a lil worried that i dont have any mail with my reg sticker for the plate on my seven... can this be the state messing with me?:ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Evil, You have to remember you are dealing with Penna. DOT. They need to clean house in Harrisburg. These are the same people that asked if my S1 was CRASHED TESTED, I said not yet !!!! Welcome Home, Steve Novelli:shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 my registration and plate sticker came in the mail!!!! WooT wOOt. 1 point for the under dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHKflyer52 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 my registration and plate sticker came in the mail!!!! WooT wOOt. 1 point for the under dog! :flag: That is a BIG RELIEF I'll bet for you.:hurray: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Evil, :hurray: You did it !!!! See, just after I bad mouth the Penna. DOT Works every time !!!!!! Good, now drive over so I can see it !!! Got Heat?? Wish you the best, Steve :party: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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