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BruceBowker

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It seems pumps are putting out a lot more volume now. There was time when, if I held the nozzle at just the right angle, I could fill. Now I can't. I have to put gas in with spurts. Anyone have any tricks?

 

I suppose I can fill a 5 gallon jug and then fill from that.

 

Bruce

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I have to run the nozzle on the lowest setting and sometimes pull it back a little from full insertion. Its a PITA and takes some time to fill it up.

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Try rotating the nozzle a bit to one side or the other. It affects how the gas splashes back to shut of the nozzle.

 

We don't have the fume tubes here, just a round splash guard.

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Benn Wofford at Caterham USA in 2011 sold me a re-designed locking cap/ filler neck and opening for the Caterham that is supposed to allow more of the nozzle down into the neck of the tank. i have not installed it yet, so cannot report on how well it works.

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I supposedly have the same resdeigned filler neck in my seven. If it were redesigned then it must have been really bad before. I have to hold the nozzle upside down at a 75 degree angle and trickle it in to fill the tank. It is an interesting exercise to fill a tank in NJ where it is illegal to fill your own car with gas (you have to let some "trained" gas station attendant fill it).

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In the past I could hold the nozzle upside down (sort of) and it worked. It just seems the pumps are faster now and it no longer works. So $10 in the tank and $10 on the ground :)

 

I may simply fill a separate container and then put that in the car.

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I think the trick is to allow air to escape while pumping in fuel. So rotating the nozzle seems to work for me. We don't have the fume recovery here in BC, so its quite easy to do. I've tried inserting a smaller tube along side the nozzle to allow air to escape, but it didn't seem to work. Maybe installing a purge valve somewhere on the tank is the answer.

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Can some of you show a picture of the filler tube shape, indicating what works and what doesn't?

 

ie: is the filler tube into the tank a bent 90°, or straight but angled into the tank?

 

Can we find what works well?

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I think the trick is to allow air to escape while pumping in fuel. So rotating the nozzle seems to work for me. Maybe installing a purge valve somewhere on the tank is the answer.

 

It is more of so much coming out that it backs up and therefore shuts off the nozzle. Ah for the days of the hand cranked fillers!!!!

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can you post a picture of the "new and improved" filler?

I replaced by stock birkin fuel cap with an aero cap from Newton. The newton cap is much easier to fill but still requires nozzle gymnastics. My experience is the fuel nozzle is often too horizontally oriented, and does not extend far enough into the fuel filler - compared to regular cars. I thought about cutting back the bottom flange on my filler cap to increase the filler nozzle angle. Fortunately i found a local gas station with pumps that reach into my car and don't require gymnastics to fill up.

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Sometimes I have to pull the rubber vapor recovery ring up to activate the pump while having the fuel nozzle in only a bit... hope the air pollution police don't catch me;)

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