BruceBowker Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I think I saw it here somewhere but where can one buy these already fixed to a mounting bar for easy attachment to the standard screen points? Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I got mine from Caterham USA a few years back. You still have to drill the holes for the Brooklands mounts and in my case I had to section in 4" in the middle as they only made the mount for the S3 size Caterhams. I have heard that they or someone is making an SV size mount now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Skip - thanks. I thought someone had the whole package already put together. Are goggles necessary of do the Brooklands deflect enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm sure you could find a competent tech to mount it for you. If you are planning on being able to quickly change back and forth between the Brooklands and the regular windscreen get a pair of brackets from Caterham that have nut plates welded on so you don't have to get behind the body skin to get a wrench on the nuts. It also makes the windscreen and Brooklands more stable. I use wraparound safety glasses most of the time but especially when there are lots of bugs around and goggles along with a leather flying helmet and leather motorcycle face mask when it is cold out. I find that when I don't have a passenger along, putting the pass side screen down horizontal greatly reduces wind buffeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timax Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Wrap arounds for me also. I have some Rudy Project magster that came with several lenses including clear. Plus a spare pair of cheap safety glasses for passengers. I dont even reverse out of the garage without them on. I do find the Brooklands to be more comfortable than just a normal windscreen and feels like i have 50 more hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Bruce - You can buy all your bits from Caterham. Its only SV chassis that need the extra work to make them fit. The mounting bracket http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_product=2791 The screens themselves that mount to the brakcet http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_product=297 And an essential is the retaining channels/captive nuts. Very easy to install - Wil DG has seen these before on my car. http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_product=302 http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_product=303 If you do not want a shiny version, the manufacturer in the UK sell it in powder coated black - I will have to dig around and find their name if you want it. Yellowss fitted one of these last year to an S3 chassis (you may remember you meeting him on one of our runs). He is in Philly if you wanted to see one in person and try it out. From my personal perspective you definitely need goggles or good wrap around biker sunglasses that seal on the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thanks all. Answers my questions. Now I just have to decide if I want to do this or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Do it, you won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 And an essential is the retaining channels/captive nuts. Very easy to install - Wil DG has seen these before on my car. http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_product=302 Mike - not sure where these go. I have panels on the inside. Must these panels be removed? I was under the impression when the windscreen bracket came off it already have captive nuts. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 My Caterham did not have the captive nuts. The windscreen just bolted onto the scuttle. I put them in myself, it was easy. You have to remove the knee panels, but they were just about half a dozen screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 As I recall the knee panels are riveted in. I'll check when I get to the car Sep 22. Thanks Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Here's what the quick change brackets look like installed on the car. The panels on my car were attached using the screws you can see along the frame rail. I've never bothered to put the black cover plates back on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Skip - the two bottom nuts holding the bracket in place, I assume holes are drilled and bolts added? In other words these holes/bolts are not already there? Very helpful picture. It is much clearer what needs to be done. Still not sure if my panels are screwed in though. I can always take out the rivets and add screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Bruce, I added them to my car last year when I installed the brooklands. The bolts are already there. There is a flat piece that you remove after taking the nuts off and the new captive nut piece is slide in and the nuts put back on. Once the panels are off its a 2 minute job. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Tom - perfect. Thanks. It all sounds easy enough. Wonder why Caterham did not use these from the start! Any US dealer selling all the bits and pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 When Caterham sent me my Brooklands, I just used the 4 large washers, used for the windshield. I concur that the brackets are better-just another example of Caterham's endless improvement program:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Caterham USA happened to have them in stock when I bought mine. IIRC they were about $10 each. Probably the cheapest Caterham part I've ever purchased. The holes in the nut plate that go over the existing studs are slotted so you can align the nut plates with the holes in the cowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBowker Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Emailed Caterham USA for parts but no reply yet. Also emailed two east coast dealers. No reply yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskossie Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I don't want to rain on anyone's parade (and I know Skip's views are opposite), but I rode to a Lotus Club meeting as a passenger in Skip's car with Brooklands, in late April -- and I definitely felt that the wind buffeting was more severe than with a full windscreen. It was really quite uncomfortable. In addition, BOTH ears and BOTH sides of my face were getting buffeted, unlike behind a windscreen, where only the outboard side gets hit.... I'd be interested in hearing of others' actual experiences on this topic, which I guess is a hijack of the purely technical nature of the original inquiry...sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timax Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Interesting you say that Alaskossie. Are you used to a screen with wind deflectors attached to the sides or just a screen? Did you have a play with the angle of the brooklands? Makes a big difference to me. Need to get that sweet spot of the air just clearing your head. half inch too low and it will take your cap off. I find the angle where the screens actually look cool is not enough. You need to go a little higher where they appear to be a little too upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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