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DSK chassis with 13B rotary engine in NC


GregM

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My yellow "DSK 13B" has finally showed up. Lots to explore but everything works and looks solid and well put together. Needs a good detail and a bit of TLC.

I am still talking with David Kaplan, DSK founder, about this car since, per him, the car has not been assembled by DSK. I am being told however that the chassis is the last chassis DSK has sold which is what I am trying to verify.

Anyway, besides its origin and history, this car has a Mazda 13b rotary engine which should make things more interesting. More to come!

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Nice score with some minor/fun fixes but clean otherwise. I don't see an oil injection tank so you will probably need to mix it yourself or retrofit an injection system but I've no experience with that. I think oem apex seals when treated well can last about 80k without excessive smoking. Something to look for is the internal chrome plating can be damaged and require replating. These are known to be very loud so for road use, you might consider shelving the race exhaust and make/have made a quiet system in stainless or have it ceramic powder coated using an oem application 6-7 inch round muffler and a transverse oval or resonator/glass pack under the trunk/spare. I can post a pic of a list I recently put together of oem replacement walker mufflers and resonators that could be suitable if you are interested in the option later.   

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You are possibly right regarding the need to run on premix. The engine is not very loud as it goes through 3 different mufflers (2 pre-mufflers then a supertrap) besides, I like it a bit on the loud side.

 

 

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Good to know. Sounds like it runs well. Does the exhaust loop up over the axle or run straight back under the car? I've seen donkervoorts loop over.

 

Some handy info on premix/oil injection: https://rotaryperformance.com/blogs/news/84479876-to-premix-or-not-to-premix

It sounds like a pre-88 refurbished mechanical system would be the most practical.

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It looks very well put together, all neat and tidy,  just needs a good clean. It that twin alternator belts, if so a little strange. Getting a airbox with cold air would help a lot, just sucking air from under the bonnet is never good. Supertrap exhausts suck, they may reduce sound but the kill performance. I had a Supertrap on the first Honda setup to reduce the ear splitting sounds levels. The dyno operator said that has to go, we removed it for the final dyno runs and picked up 25BHP.

 

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Yeah I will most likely experiment with the exhaust. Not only I'm not completely sold to the Supertrap idea but the entire exhaust system on this car is over complicated and heavy. Yes, it does loop above the rear axle. All that might not be unique but it goes against the "light is right" motto.

For the intake, right now, I need to find a new filter. Not sure what air cleaner this is but the carburetor is a Mikuni 44PHH.

First on my to do list, after a good clean, is to sort the wiring harness. Everything works but some wires seem to have been added after the fact and will cause electrical gremlins as soon as humidity shows up.

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4 hours ago, GregM said:

For the intake, right now, I need to find a new filter. Not sure what air cleaner this is but the carburetor is a Mikuni 44PHH.

Looks like a KNN e-3341 filter from a 56-1350 assembly, fitting Weber DCOEs. Overall assembly dims 4.5 x  7 or 5.5 x 9?

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3 hours ago, MV8 said:

Looks like a KNN e-3341 filter from a 56-1350 assembly, fitting Weber DCOEs. Overall assembly dims 4.5 x  7 or 5.5 x 9?

The filter itself is 4.5 x 7 by 4 inches tall. I initially looked into that e-3341 but it turned out that it needed an e-3954. The difference is one being an oval, the other a rectangle which is what I need.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

https://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/E-3954/10002/

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Maybe one of you guys know: the oil filler neck on that 13b engine has a small port at its base and it’s currently not connected to anything (left open to the engine bay) which doesn’t look right. What is this supposed to connect to on the rx-7 ? I’m thinking PCV valve but since it’s a rotary, it’s obviously different. Oil catch can?

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Looks like fun          YEARS ago, I put a 13b in a Lotus 51, made one hell of an autocrosser

 

Don't run it without figuring out the oil situation, or at least dumping some in the tank for insurance.

I left the stock mech system on mine, never had a problem, it just uses crankcase oil.

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