What starter for Birkin or Caterham with early 2000cc Zetec and Ford T9 5-speed?

[pethier]

I want to replace the starters in my 2 Sevens, but don't know what to ask for at the parts counter.  The two starters look interchangeable.

 

Do I need to ask for some sort of Merkur starter?

[Vovchandr]

We need to know what zetec you have. 

 

Likely a contour one that's vct or similar and it's going to be different than a Ford focus one. 

 

I went through this issue when I did my clutch. The car came with a clutch from a focus as a spare but it didn't work with the existing flywheel and after swapping flywheel it didn't work with the existing starter so I had to do a full conversion at that point. 

Edited yesterday at 12:26 PM by Vovchandr

[pethier]

On 5/3/2026 at 7:24 AM, Vovchandr said:

We need to know what zetec you have. 

 

Likely a contour one that's vct or similar and it's going to be different than a Ford focus one. 

 

I went through this issue when I did my clutch. The car came with a clutch from a focus as a spare but it didn't work with the existing flywheel and after swapping flywheel it didn't work with the existing starter so I had to do a full conversion at that point. 

I don't know the origin of the parts in my green Birkin, but the engine certainly looks like a 2000cc non-CVT Zetec like the one in my Caterham.

 

The non-CVT Zetec engine in my Caterham is from a 1996 Contour.  This is the junkyard engine bought to temporarily replace the "Steve" engine. Steve built HIS Birkin from a new kit and sourced the non-CVT Zetec engine from a 1996 Contour. 

 

The T9 transmissions and the alloy bellhousings in both my Birkin and my Caterham look identical.

 

None of the engines I speak about here are CVT.

 

I will make some measurements and take some photos and get back to this thread.

 

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By mistake, I bought from a private seller a Zetec CVT from a 1999 Contour.  That engine is is still at Ron's shop and has nothing whatever to do with either of my Sevens.

 

 

 

 

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[pethier]

14 hours ago, pethier said:

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Edited 3 hours ago by pethier
just one of the usual errors I make with computers.

[CarlB]

Where does the starter motor mount on the bellhousing. That is an issue. I have a Zetec with the Focus engine and flywheel; it uses a bellhousing that mounts the starter under the intake manifold. My car uses a Focus starter. There are bellhousings that mount the starter down low. They are available to mount the start on either or both sides of the engine. I do not know what starter they use.   

[11Budlite]

I don't know where the starter came from in my old Birkin, but this is a photo of the setup I had. The engine was from a '96 Contour and the gearbox was a T9 with the stock Birkin bellhousing operated with the slave cylinder mounted on the top of the gearbox cover. I'd be surprised if the bellhousing was the same between the Birkin and the Caterham because I believe the Birkin used the short input shaft, and the Caterham used the long input shaft on the gearbox. I know when I ordered the close ratio gearkit from BGH I had to tell him which input shaft I had.  I guess yours could be different though.

 

Is there a P/N on your starter?

[pethier]

1 hour ago, 11Budlite said:

I'd be surprised if the bellhousing was the same between the Birkin and the Caterham

I do not blame you for not following the bread crumbs. 

 

To recap:

The original Caterham 1700 Super Sprint engine, bellhousing, and T9 transmission is now in another state, destined to be installed in a Lotus 7.

My autocross friend Steve is building his Birkin into an electric car.  He sold me all his gasoline stuff, including Zetec, Birkin bellhousing, and T9.

I had a problem (too goofy to recount here) with with "The Steve Engine".  "The Steve Engine" is from a 1996 Contour.

Ron, another autocross friend, is an engine mechanic and dyno tuner.  Ron is going to clean and balance "The Steve Engine".  

To fill in, I bought a junkyard engine from a 1996 Contour (after learning my lesson and buying the wrong Zetec).

 

Alerted by our fine friends here on USA7s, I checked out a Birkin for sale up north in Minnesota (no, not in Lakeland where others had assumed), and bought it. This Birkin has a Zetec, Birkin bellhousing, and T9.

 

I am soon going to provide more information and photos on these starters I have.

 

 

 

Edited 25 minutes ago by pethier

[pethier]

11 minutes ago, pethier said:

 

 

 

Edited 25 minutes ago by pethier
Dammit. I did it again.