another "is this a 7 ?" from SEMA

[Ian7]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/05/sema-2008-cadillac-powered-vrs-is-omg/

 

Not to my taste, but the "more power is better" guys might like it...

[solder_guy]

Something missing .. maybe enough functionality to make it work ..

 

Look at the tie rod angle .. just safe enough for pushing it .. to the show.

 

And what's up with those air scoops for the front brakes .. Who thought that would be a good idea?

 

Rob

 

 

[Spaz]

That is just crazy.

[pksurveyor]

The car is running on Toyo S/T truck tires??

[powderbrake]

If you want a Cadillac powered "seven" , Then the J2 Allard is already available. I always loved this car, the cycle fender were the striking element in this 50's era car. I addition, the hood bulges at the windscreens are the precursor of my Ultralite hood.

Here is one I saw at the Concours Italiano in 2002.

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/791731932_IMGP1709.JPG

 

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/752445526_Allard_J2X.jpg

 

Also at the same show, there was the coolest hot rod I have ever seen. It was a built from scratch car with a Ferrari V12 engine and complete ferrari drivetrain. He was a Ferrari collector. so was able to get Ferrari to sell him a brand new engine and drivetrain. Of course the front & rear cycle fenders are the cool items.

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/954405444_IMGP1580.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1365145032_IMGP1626.JPG

 

Plus whatever this one is, It was in the parking lot

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/545911448_IMGP1573.JPG

[scannon]

If you want a Cadillac powered "seven" , Then the J2 Allard is already available. I always loved this car, the cycle fender were the striking element in this 50's era car. I addition, the hood bulges at the windscreens are the precursor of my Ultralite hood.

Here is one I saw at the Concours Italiano in 2002.

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/791731932_IMGP1709.JPG

 

 

I'm fairly sure that Allard is the one a friend of mine bought at auction a few years ago. His son took me for a ride in it and it has amazing performance for an early 50's car. They have run it in the Colorado Grand several times and even brought it along on one of our Miata club drives.

 

Here's a picture of the engine compartment.

 

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http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1726982372_Cad Allard Engine.JPG

[eVox]

do you know the connection that put offenhauser on the valve cover? I am only about 20 pages into my offenhauser book...

[scannon]

do you know the connection that put offenhauser on the valve cover? I am only about 20 pages into my offenhauser book...

 

I don't know of any connection but I would speculate that it is just that Offenhouser was making aftermarket valve covers for the Cadillac engines used in hot rods back then and the company that put the Caddy engine in the Allard decided to use them.

 

If your book mentions it, please post the information here.

 

Skip

 

 

[WestTexasS2K]

Man that Ferrari hotrod is incredible.

[ottocycle]

Only one of the "big three" could make LSIS look so heavy!! : )

On a more serious note I like the concept, strongly influenced by (or stolen from) the Toniq, a LSIS car designed and built by a couple of English engineering students, currently in production.

 

Ottocycle.

[powderbrake]

 

I'm fairly sure that Allard is the one a friend of mine bought at auction a few years ago. His son took me for a ride in it and it has amazing performance for an early 50's car. They have run it in the Colorado Grand several times and even brought it along on one of our Miata club drives.

 

Here's a picture of the engine compartment.

 

Skip

 

 

very similar, but this one had 4 carbs

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1768223807_IMGP1710.JPG

 

Loren: The Ferrrari rod was absolutely the finest finished car I have seen. Here's a few more pics

 

link to the uilder's website Moal Coachbuilders

 

 

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/2043668745_IMGP1582.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/339926619_IMGP1583.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/441335575_IMGP1585.JPG

 

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1578613439_IMGP1590.JPG

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1016994267_IMGP1592.JPG

 

I liked the formed into the sheet metal accent ridge , from hood to tail

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/1159899157_IMGP1630.JPG

 

 

[11Budlite]

That Ferrari special is beautiful!

 

The bare aluminum car in the parking lot with the three K&N's, I think was made by a ex-Brit sheetmetal guy that worked for one of the hot rod builders or restoration shops. Can't remember his name but I think it was his daily driver that he made out of various TR6 parts. It was a small part of a bigger feature on "Rides" or one of those shows.

 

Here's one of my favorites. The HWM-Stovebolt Special:

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/192241537_30.jpg

 

And here's one called "The Murray Brothers Special" that was made by a local garage a couple towns over from me. I saw it at Lime Rock one weekend and it was really nice. He drives it on the road, track, and even ran it on the salt flats. There was a nice article about it in the July '08 issue of Hot Rod magazine:

 

http://www.usa7s.net/ASPNETFORUM/upload/135354549_Murray%20Bros%20Special.jpg

 

Bruce :7drive:

 

PS: Not sure what happened to the last picture, but you can do a google image search of "Murray Brothers Special" and it should be the first picture.

[ottocycle]

Bruce,

I agree. I too like the Stovebolt Special, strongly influenced by the Maserati A6GCS. It is currently owned by Simon Taylor the writer for Motorsport magazine in the UK. He campaigns it in hillclimbs. With the small block Chevy I bet it goes like stink!!! I must check U tube to see if it is on there.

You are right about the bare aluminum car in the parking lot. It was built by the same guy who built Eric Zausners Ferrari engined hot rod in the earlier photos. his name is Jimmy Kilroy, a countryman of mine (Ireland), who works for Steve Moal in San Francisco. A gifted craftsman (he also did a set of aluminum bodywork for his Ducati motorcycle and a huge cowl for a Russian radial engine he put in an aerobatic plane styled like a Pitts Special). I was fortunate enough to meet him a number of years ago when I visited Steve Moal's facility after been completely smitten by a hot rod he built called the California V-8 Special, the most beautiful hot rod I have ever seen. The comedian Tim Allen got him to build a "copy" called the Licorice Special, a beautifully crafted car a little bigger than the sister car but not as beautiful. If anybody has a copy of "Street Rodder" July 1996 I would like to buy it.

 

God, I know too much about this S**T. I need to get a life!!!!!!!

 

Cheers,

 

Dermot.

 

 

[11Budlite]

Thanks for the history lesson Dermot! Yes, that's the guy. It'd been so long since I saw the show that I couldn't remember his name, but I did remember how impressed I was with the craftsmanship!

 

Bruce :7drive:

[ottocycle]

As the saying goes: "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear". I was in my local CVS today and browsed through the magazine rack and found December Hot Rod magazine. Inside is an article on their Hot Rod of the year, none other than the Murray Bros. Special, a car I just learned about from Bruce's post....Go figure.

Cheers-

 

Dermot.

[11Budlite]

Dermot - I just read the December issue too and I was real happy to see that he won. He basically built the whole car himself and though it's not a pristine show car, it's definitely a car that gets driven and that's the whole point to me!

 

Bruce :7fume: