yellowss7 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Here's a short clip from last Monday's trackday. This video shows how quickly things can go bad. Tom Edited September 2, 2012 by yellowss7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'll say it can go quickly wrong - I am still on September 2! How did you get to September 27 so quickly? :willy_nilly: Mr Ferrari should know better than to wave at his 'adoring fans' (aka waving you past) while cresting that turn and getting back on the power! Good to see you got the sound to work well - just need to find a less windy spot now. I would also recommend dialing back to 720 60fps and checking your camera mount is fixed down tightly - the rolling shutter/waviness was making me ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I kinda liked the dancing/swaying rear view mirror effect, Sort of reminded me of a cobra, the snake not the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Thanks Croc, I mistakenly let the youtube editor fix, what it said it detected as a shakey clip. The orginal does not have that effect. As for the mic, yep I have to experiment a bit more. Still getting wind noise. Pete was way off line going into the turn, When I saw him give me the point by, I knew that he was going to have trouble. Luckly, we weren't going fast when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelD Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Tom, I think that snake dance your car does going into turns scared the s:," out of him. That seems to happen with Ferrari drivers in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 That seems to happen with Ferrari drivers in NJ. I was disappointed, F355's do not make the same impressive dust clouds than F458's do! :jester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) Croc: Not to mention the impressive drought-assisted dust clouds CSR's make! The Ferrari guy made a mistake I have unfortunately made several times in the past: losing focus to do something other than drive (here pointing Tom by). Tom: At least you have sound! Is this a GoPro set up and, if so, wh/version? As you know, I cant get my GoPro to record sound but I have the old internal mic set-up. Edited September 3, 2012 by Kitcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Oh come on Mike...you have two sevens and an upmarket Porsche SUV thingy...you can afford to buy a nice new HD Hero 2 with the external mic port! :seeya: Being serious...just a little bit....I think your built in mic in your current Gopro is broken. You can send it back to Gopro for repairs as an alternative. Tom was using his Drift HD camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yr reading my mind here Croc. And, the deaf and dumb camera can be positioned backwards and provide a different perspective and supplement my new forward facing GoPro w/sound! That way not a precious detail of my future spins, offs and other driving misadventures will be missed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHKflyer52 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Hi Tom and Others, Just watched the clip and all I can say is WOW that Ferrari sure did rotate fairly fast and you (Tom) did a fine job of avoiding a very close call. I am surprised that your group would let people point by in turns especially when it is not a race but just a track day. Great clip that dose show just how fast things can go wrong on a track. Glad no one or any car was injured except for the Ferrari drivers pride. Thanks for posting all of your adventures at the track as I know a lot of people that enjoy seeing and reading your exploits. Edited September 5, 2012 by MHKflyer52 corrected spelling and grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Hi Martin - The Drivers Club does not allow passing in the corners like that. I think the driver was having brain fade at that moment, amply illustrated by the rapid rotation 1 second later. It is important to remember that just because a car in front points you by, does not mean you have to take it as Tom wisely showed. Next time you are over here maybe the 'Sarah Palin Fan Club' :jester: and I can get you out to the track for a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 The driver (Pete) is a heck of a nice guy, perhaps too nice. I bet that is why he was trying to let you past in the corner, obviously not the right place to point by. He came out way too wide, missing the apex and tried hard to correct and avoid running out of track. I know the feeling of that crazy yellow caterham gaining on you fast and wanting to get out of the way ASAP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Karl, you are exactly right. Pete is a very nice guy and he was trying to be nice and point me by early. I purposely wasn't buzzing him like (kitcat/the "enama" does) :jester: When I saw how far off line he was I Knew he wouldn't make that turn. (been there done that) Back in the paddock, he said he basically had a brain fart and forgot where he was on track. Luckily he saved it and didn't run into the armco on the right like some do on that turn. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I know the feeling of that crazy yellow caterham gaining on you fast and wanting to get out of the way ASAP!!! Not quite Karl - it is normally the red seven that does that. :rofl: Tom is way too polite to beat you up! :seeya: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Pretty neat video. You mentioned that You Tube editor fixed the shaky video with a snake version..........not sure how they did that. I noticed not only the mirror swaying but the entire front end of the car did too. I had a Corvair that would do that because it was so rusty. On the more serious side, what kind of speeds do you hit on this track ? Being in Florida, I've never been up that far but it sure looks like a neat track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Youtube will ask you if you want it to fix shaky videos during the upload process. Unfortunately I find it makes the video worse! NJMP has the two tracks - Thunderbolt and Lightning. http://www.njmp.com/facility/track-maps.html In the video, Tom was running the Lightning circuit which is shorter but really quite fun because of the flowing nature. Momentum driving styles work well here. The other track, Thunderbolt is far more technical but is an interesting challenge for a seven as the first half is open and fast but the second half tightens up tremendously. So the big hp cars get away quickly but you reel them back quickly later on as they lurch through the slow bits. Assuming no traffic issues - On Lightning the front straight sees me top out around 125mph if I get a clear run on a cool day and about 105mph on the back straight. Drop that around 10-13mph on a hot day. This is from GPS logging data I collect. Speedo for my car reads 10mph faster but we all know how accurate that is! Assuming no traffic issues - For Thunderbolt, the front straight is about 135mph on a cool day with a clear run and about 110mph on the back straight. Hot days drop you back 10-15mph. With a passenger on a hot day takes you down 15-20mph. Now those speeds are for my car which has a third more hp than Tom. I have GPS data on a November day showing Tom getting to around 121mph area on the front straight of Thunderbolt. He struggles to about 115mph on a hot day. If you want to get a sense of the laps with some data then try these videos: Lightning - Traffic is a problem up to about 3 minutes then it clears out and MichaelD (with the be-winged seven in front) and I start having decent runs. Thunderbolt - Data logged footage of me following Kitcat on a nice clean lap staring 0.30: Come and join us next June when we have the sevens event. We could do with some more sevens who like going fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Here is the original version of my video without the Youtube fix. Definately better without their help. [/url] Edited September 7, 2012 by yellowss7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelD Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Tom, I really liked the snake dance. How could anyone not watch that in their rear view mirror and forget wher the line was? It wasn't his fault after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 If I can't catch em, then I have to distract them. :seeya: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Croc: Tom's dyno sheet shows something like 195 hp at the rear wheels (compared to my Duratec's paltry 165 hp). I know you have an amazing Cosworth Duratec, with many demon tweaks, but I suspect it isn't 1/3 more powerful than Tom's hp at the rear wheels. Wld be happy to be wrong (dyno sheet time:))? Also, am amazed that heat makes such a difference in top speed (hp). I know GPS #'s dont lie, just very surprised. I mite have guessed 2-3 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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