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hello all

 

im new here and have inherited a birkin s3 from my father after he passed however, the car has sufferd an unfortunte accident doing a fair amount of dmage but it still drove home so i hope i can fix it so it can live on in memory of my father since he is gone.

 

my only problem is i cannot seem to find spare parts to do the repairs im a mechanic i just cant do body work. all i really need is the parts.

 

this car means soo much to me hope someone can help.

 

im in arizona but will travel or have what ever shipped i need to.

 

thanks soo much for your time in reading this.

 

wayne

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Wayne

 

There may be some help on the birkinowners yahoo group. There is a photo album on the site labeled "frame repair" from July. Perhaps the guy that made the album can provide some information, and I think there was other repair experience within the group.

 

I am not trying to take anything away from this excellent forum, but wanted to point you to an additional resource if you were not already aware of it.

 

Blaine

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Nobody can know what is really going on with the car until you remove the cowl/windshield, the hood, and the side skin. (I refuse to call it a scuttle and bonnet-- its a left-hand car!).

 

I can tell there's frame damage, but cant tell how severe. Its all just a bunch of steel tubing anyhow. Replacing sections is not expensive nor difficult... but more an issue of time. The thing that would scare me is if the frame were warped in an overall way. Way back when I did autobody I could pull stamped sheetmetal cars straight, but a tube frame thats so well triangulated... I'm not so sure that'd even be a good idea. So lets hope that the damage is isolated.

 

I guess after stripping the body away from the damaged area, I would work on a way to test the frame's straightness at the 4 corners. Make a plan from there.

 

Essentially at this point it is inventory time. The cowl/windshield has to go. Perhaps a track car that doesn't need the windshield could sell you one, but you'll need a cowl from Texas Motorworks. There's no way you'd want to fabricate that piece. The hood *might *be salvageable if you dont mind a little filler. The side skin should be saved as a pattern- you can probably flatten it out well enough to work for that. Just a guess but I bet the floor skin is gnarly. Its just a sheet, but its a big one. I dunno--its hard to tell from just a couple pictures of the car still assembled.

 

Good luck. Keep us informed. It'll be fun to see it come together.

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thanks for all of the info i was condiering sending it to texas motor works as i have no frame expierence. anyone know of a place capable of doing such work near phoenix. also automoda i can provide plenty of pics i have like 94 or something. i have considerd a new frame too. im going to start a build thread in the tech section.

 

blaine

thanks i am already a member does anyone know if limeyphilip has a account here. thanks for info.

i just want to thank everyone for the help.

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thanks for all of the info i was condiering sending it to texas motor works as i have no frame expierence. anyone know of a place capable of doing such work near phoenix. also automoda i can provide plenty of pics i have like 94 or something. i have considerd a new frame too. im going to start a build thread in the tech section.

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http://www.ozclubbies.com.au/index.php?/topic/2145-clubbies-are-tough/

Hi Wayne,

Link above shows damage to my Birkin

I am in Brisbane, Australia and my Birkin had a meeting with a tyre wall last year at something like 90mph, I was doing 120+ when I realized things were not looking good. Birkins are very tough and as the advice has said, take the side panel off to see what damaged lies beneath. Remember it is only steel and Aluminium. I am very fortunate that I know an old panelbeater(not sure what you call them in USA) who has an English wheel and repaired my bonnet with using any filler.

You never know what skills people have until you ask, you may be very surprised if you asked around where you live.

Cheers from a very sunny and warm Brisbane. (just about to get into the pool)

Maurice

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Wayne,

 

Luckily, you are in the Phoenix area that has many fabricators for the sand car and offroad community. I know several myself and there are two near you. One is Tatum Motorsports at Olive and 79th Ave, and the other is Olive and Loop 101. Both of those shops have metal workers (panel beaters to you body shop guys) that could take apart, investigate and repair just about any accident damaged car.

 

I also know Rob Wessel and Dean Simion in Desert Hills; they have a complete metal working shop ( 6000 square feet plus a complete dyno room) including benders, brakes, tig, mig, and shears. Rob would be my first choice but he is so busy it might take a while.

 

I think it is very important that whomever will do the re-build, also does the removal of the damaged pieces. In that way he can see what moves as bits and pieces are removed.

 

I'd like to at least come over and take a look at it before you send it anywhere.

 

Tom

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