Yes, but it is nice to see companies actually making money, allowing for further development, etc. I haven't been able to figure out if anybody makes money on kit cars, or glorified kit cars, in C'ham's case. I own a decent business, and can add. On the other hand, I have a theory that many British companies are now owned by other companies, based in other countries, merely to avoid paying tax. No names here of course... there are bound to be a few lawyers around.