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For the sake of comparison, the power, weight and performance of the 818 might need to be revisited. I’m assuming the HP numbers for the cars in the chart (excellent chart, BTW) are flywheel HP, not RWHP. If so, parasitic loss will have to be taken into account for the HP number of the two 818’s in the following videos. I’ve seen parasitic loss numbers of anywhere from 12% to 21%; 15% may be a fair ‘ballpark’ number. I’m also assuming the weights of the cars are dry/curb weights (no driver/no fuel or no drive/with fuel). In all fairness to the total weight given for the 818 in the video below, there is no mention of what was included in the corner weighting of the car (and, unfortunately, there is only a brief shot of the weights). Based on the FF advertised weight of 1800 lb vs. the recorded weight displayed in the video, one might assume that driver and fuel weights were added. As for how an Atom or an X-Bow compares, performance wise, to the 818, I can’t say as I have never driven any of these cars nor do I have any real firsthand knowledge of these cars other than what I've read or seen in videos; the closest I've come is seeing two Atoms up close and personal, and both of these cars were sitting in garages. As for how the 818 looks in comparison . . . . Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.:drool::puke: If you would care to add the Brunton Stalker (V8 version) to the chart, I can provide the specs for my car. My car, being LS6 powered, would represent middle-of-the-road numbers regarding V8 powered Stalkers as most of the V8 cars are powered by an LS3. 818 dyno at 4:40 and 818 corner weight numbers at 5:23 Also, the builder of the 818 seems to be a locost 7 enthusiast. Anybody know him? 818 dyno at :30 (this is the GRM 818 build) 818 at Watkins glen

I like it. If you make it work, I'm gonna copy you.

JW Speaker?

Well said, bigdog, well said. :cheers:

bigdog, Just poking fun at you. However, I have to admit that driving the 'ring' is still on my bucket list. I want to! I want to! I want to! :drool: And I, for one, am not going to shoot any flames your way; you have an opinion, are entitled to it, and I respect that. Okay, back to the thread. I reiterate, buy and drive. :jester:

No room for error. You just about need a co-driver reading off pacenotes. Joachim, I see you joined in 09 but have no previous posts. If I missed it somehow, welcome aboard. :seeya:

Croc, Being a corporate pilot, more times than not it's usually spur-of-the-moment notice for me, but I'll be sure and let you know next time I'm headed that way. Would certainly enjoy getting together for a visit.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but if I had to be plucked off of a polar icecap because my ICEBREAKER ship got stuck in the ice, I might seriously revisit my views on global warming. Now where did I sit my coffee? :rofl: BTW, I just saw a dog chasing a cat, and it's so cold outside that they were both huddled together.

It's funny you mention that. I was actually looking last week on Google Maps to see just how far I would have to travel to come up there for a track day; only 1,322 mi from El Dorado, AR. You guys do look like you have a lot of fun together and NJMP looks to be a fantastic track for Sevens. I do occasionally fly into Teterboro. If the cards are ever aligned and I'm up there during an opportune weekend, I'd love to drive down and, at the very least, hang out with you guys.

"Bloody hell" The ring again? Sorry, bigdog, just couldn't resist. :jester:

Just watched the video all the way through. Your honking your horn at the Superlight (Tom and Jack) in the Chicane is hilarious! :smilielol5::cheers:

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! :cheers: Okay, I'm putting in a request for 'bowing/worshiping' emoticons solely for replying to Croc's posts. :smilielol5:

I've had an off-track trek. Took a quick tour of the grassy knoll coming into Horseshoe (that's 'Texas talk' for turn 14 at MSR Cresson). Didn't break anything except my pride . . . . but that was already in a severe state of disarray to begin with. :driving: . . . . . . . . . . :banghead: About 4:50 on the video:

Definitely worth a look. Just sent you a PM. :seeya:

Man! And just when this global warming thing had me spooked. . . . . . Thanks, guys, for giving me peace if mind.

And he lives there on purpose? :ack:

Okay, guys (and gals), I'm looking to have a set of bespoke (what a great word) track-use-only wheels built for my Stalker. The brands I'm considering are Bogart, Keizer and Kodiak. I'd appreciate any input (pros, cons, etc.) regarding these brands as well as any other recommendations with respect to other brands I might/should consider. Thanks in advance.

Great photo. :cheers: Going to be 12 degrees Fahrenheit tonight here in lovely El Dorado, AR. :chillpill:

Mike, They look great! Can hardly wait to see them painted. :cheers:

Twerd68, Here's a photo of the third car we spoke about; SC V6. As for V8 Stalkers coming up for sale, I've only personally seen two thus far; the one I purchased back from Mike Sharkey and the one John Meyer recently had up for sale.

Twerd68, Welcome to this group of great (sometimes, brutally honest) car enthusiasts. I personally don't think you will find any other car that offers the most 'bang for the buck' than a Seven-inspired car. Be it real or replica, factory or kit built, powered by a four, six or eight cylinder power plant, these cars are FUN! PERIOD! I've owned a Birkin and my current car, a Stalker; both, a blast to drive. As for building vs. buying, lots of good responses here. One of the most popular topics concerning such debates is that of money. Hands down, buying an already built (used) Seven is the most cost effective way to go. As for the reward of building your own car (time permitting), there can be as much reward in taking a well built car (or even a poorly built, but well designed car) and making it your own. My personal story is a bit different than most. I currently own a Stalker (chassis #85) that I first built to about 80% complete and sold in 2007 due to an unexpected job change. When I sold the car, it was sporting an SC V6. When I purchased the car back in 2012, it had an LS6. After purchasing the car, I drove and enjoyed it for the rest of the summer and then spent the winter making it mine . . . again. Since having this car back in my possession, I've made many changes to the car and those changes are documented in my build log on the Stalker V6 Gallery (see link in my signature). My build log reflects, in a sense, both sides of much of what has been debated here; pages one through four of the log document the original build while pages four and five reveal the car as it first appeared once I took possession of it for the second time as well as the changes I've made to the car since then. In short, I have found (personally) just as much reward in making changes to this car as I did when I first built it to near completion. Having said all this, it will come down to being a personal choice. I have owned several specialty cars and have built all of them with the exception of the last three I've purchased (three, that is, if you include the second purchase of the Stalker). If there is a pro for building your own car initially, it's the intimacy you will have with knowing the car, but intimacy with any car can be developed through maintenance, care and making any desired changes. My very humble advise would be to purchase an already-built car, enjoy driving the car (I enjoy driving now more than I do building) and make changes along the way to suit your taste, needs, etc. After this, if you ever decide you want to build your own car, you will have an excellent foundation for what you want in that build. If I were considering a supercharged V6 Stalker, there are two cars I would look at (possibly three); one is the car Pat has for sale on this site, one is currently on eBay and the other is a car that I know of that may be coming up for sale. If interested in the third car, send me a PM and I'll pass on the info I have. All these cars are excellent examples. And you can always swap the V6 for the LSx of your choice sometime on down the road. Anyway, my two cents worth. Good luck, and once again, welcome aboard. :seeya:

Mike, The car is getting some performance mods; larger primary headers (1 7/8" built by Brunton), AFR heads, supporting mods and tune.

Tralfaz, Sorry, I have no other photos of this car; simply stumbled across it while looking at the cars on the Flicker link.

Gotta love that key!

4MARIO's Stalker chassis #142 is at the Brunton facility undergoing repairs and will live again.