John B Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Brightonuk. - I've been down this road many times myself and I understand your angst. But in my last 30 years of probably doing over 100 rebuilds of race and street engines, a slogan from a sign hanging in an engine shop sums it all up. "Fast, Reliable, Cheap - Pick any two" For me it's boiled down to Fast and Reliable. Based on that, in my experience I think double your $8k budget is a deal. Trust me, if you're hard on your cars like I am recycling "OK" parts is a losing game. While you have it apart replace everything that is remotely questionable. Otherwise, you will be looking at a string of failures down the road. Ultimately that costs more for mediocre performance. I just spent $30k on my Caterham engine. Tell that to your wife and you'll look good : ) Edited April 4, 2019 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 Ya that said anyone know where to source a new crank for a 2.0 Zetec apparently they are discontinued by Ford and none of the speed shops have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomatva Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Ended up having a forged crank made, as what was available at the time was marginal at best. Sorry I did not keep the original, cast unit. Getting to $30,000 is fairly easy to realize. Adding a Quaife sequential box has made the car rather expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Raceline in UK purports to sell Zetec engines and some components. Maybe start there? In the U.S., FocusFanatics is the forum for Ford Focuses and their various iterations. Maybe ask there? They have sub-forums on Zetecs and, separately, SVT Zetecs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I know these two from their extensive Caterham involvement. There is going to be a USA supplier with some legwork searching Raceline https://www.raceline.co.uk/products/index.asp?categoryID=2 Burton Power https://www.burtonpower.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ZETEC+CRANKSHAFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Ya still looking I would rather not have to go to the UK but it may be a last resort, so another question regarding the crank in the Zetec (which is the only part that I am having issues matching up) My Zetec block has "Ford Racing" Stamped in the block does this block or internals differentiate from a standard 2.0 Zetec? I found this https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/pdfs/EngineHistory.pdf but it really does not tell me much just uses Ford Racing Parts. As I am possibly replacing the crank is there a ford part number for a "Ford Racing block Crank" or is it just a standard one. Everything else Rods, pistons etc can be and will be aftermarket items but I am concerned that I install HP internals I do not want to make a silly mistake on using the wrong crank Thanks Steve Edited April 5, 2019 by Brightonuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasdude Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 PM me I have blocks and cranks including some brand new. Ya still looking I would rather not have to go to the UK but it may be a last resort, so another question regarding the crank in the Zetec (which is the only part that I am having issues matching up) My Zetec block has "Ford Racing" Stamped in the block does this block or internals differentiate from a standard 2.0 Zetec? I found this https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/pdfs/EngineHistory.pdf but it really does not tell me much just uses Ford Racing Parts. As I am possibly replacing the crank is there a ford part number for a "Ford Racing block Crank" or is it just a standard one. Everything else Rods, pistons etc can be and will be aftermarket items but I am concerned that I install HP internals I do not want to make a silly mistake on using the wrong crank Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=15177&stc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 PM me I have blocks and cranks including some brand new. I PM you give me a bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just wanna cry Received a call from the builder and apparently the Crank is shot due to #4 journal damage but I suspected that....bad news the #4 cylinder was scored and another cylinder had a small rust ring, bigger issues is it was already overbored so it is toast. He said they have sourced a junk engine and will scavenge the parts from that, in addition will overbore it (20 over)apparently JE pistons have that ring size on the shelf so it should be an issue. The good news was the head was in good shape just a slight wear with the cam journals but they were cleaned up and everything is good. Now I have to wait at least another three weeks before it is all back together. The wife keeps asking how much is all this costing :cuss: I have no idea at this stage but I may need to sell the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Crying does not solve a thing. Usually waters down the drink you have in hand too. So you created a bit of a mess - well done! Does your engine builder have a view on what happened? Which bit let go first and why? A rust ring in a cylinder plus the past overbore tells me it was not the greatest of previous builds and a shortcut or 5 may have been taken? Get his professional view as if you were the cause you need to know so you do not do it again and if you were not the cause then you know how to look for it next time on your next car. Junk engine approach is a good one. Every part you need is on the shelf. You did not blow the head. Its not going to take too long to put it all back together - 3 weeks in the spousal doghouse is survivable - barely a scratch. Sounds like you may have avoided a very big world of pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 So that's why the Grey Goose tasted like Absolute Still do not have a final price yet but I do have confidence in this shop that they will not cut corners and offer up a good build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David K Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Mmmm. A Ford Racing head. If you choose a new direction and are left with a spare Ford Racing head for a Zetec, I'd be happy to dispose of it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selrahc360 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Hi, Just two cents a stock focus unit get close to 200 hp with a intake change. And if you go with a big gear oil pump you do not have to dry sump. I would get a SVT unit and change the intake. start at DanST in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selrahc360 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 They exist Jackson made a supercharger for the Zetec and there is a youtube of a 7 taking names pretty sure standard engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovchandr Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 They exist Jackson made a supercharger for the Zetec and there is a youtube of a 7 taking names pretty sure standard engine. I have one. Don't be giving me encouragements to start mocking it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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