Keith Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Keith has kindly offered to run an auto-x or track day. But it is about another 4-5 hours from Denver to Grand Junction. I'm able to move around the state - if the track day needs to be in Pueblo or the autocross is going to be in Lakewood, I can cope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 The Beartooth has to be one of the coolest roads on the planet but during the summer (as long as school is out) there is a good bit of traffic and it goes slow. Folks are taking in the views. I've driven over the Beartooth a few times but never in my Seven for sport fun. It was a bit frustrating even in my VW station-wagon due to the motor-homes and the such. I drove the Beartooth a few years ago in my Miata on the 4th of July holiday. There was some traffic but nothing to slow me down. I passed some sport bikes who tried to stay with me but could not. When I stopped at the top they stopped a few minutes later and headed for me looking none too happy. Thought there might be trouble but they were just unhappy with not being able to keep up. They wanted to see what I had under the hood guessing it was a 5.0 Ford. It wasn't, just a well tuned (on Keith's Rototest dyno ) turbo 4 banger. :7fume: The highway was so much fun, I turned around and went down and back up before heading down the other side. Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I notice that Beartooth highway tops out at around 11,000 feet. Assuming a normally aspirated engine loses 4.3% of its power for every 1000' of elevation, my little Crossflow would be making about 44 hp, at best, going over that pass. Look out coming down tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost7018 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Heck my Xflow started out new at 58hp (1979 1300cc). With age and the altitude I should be in negitive HP by the summit Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solder_guy Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I dove the Beartooth .. in the AM in a rental car .. so not too much traffic .. But there was snow on the ground at the top in July! Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 What about wildlife? I recall eyeballing a buffalo from our rental car when we were out there that was about 50' away and was approximately the size of our Taurus. In a open Seven it could be quite a thrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 What about wildlife? I recall eyeballing a buffalo from our rental car when we were out there that was about 50' away and was approximately the size of our Taurus. In a open Seven it could be quite a thrill. I'd be more concerned about bears than buffalo. Fortunately, bears along the roads in Yellowstone are far more scarce than in the past. I recall having one slap the windshield on my dad's 55 Mercury when we had to stop because it was in the middle of the road. I swear that glass moved in about an inch when the paw hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Ozarks closing the gap on Montana...maybe we'll only need 2 white papers after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderbrake Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 As to the Black Hills: No bears, but here is a pic of what to expect on the road to Mount Rushmore in the Black Hills, wild donkeys that will stick their head in your window to get treats. ( alt 16 through Custer State Park.) Note there is some rain, but as you can see in the rear view mirror, the top is down, as it was for over 5400 miles on that trip. http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/240130578_DSC_0496 (Small).JPG Another pic of the road to Rushmore which goes through tunnels that present a view of Rushmore. http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/977579021_DSC_0508 (Small).JPG Here are some shots of downtown Deadwood http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/512074375_DSC_0521 (Small).JPG http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1306526134_DSC_0539 (Small).JPG http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1366023168_DSC_0540 (Small).JPG As to Montana, it is an absolutely gorgeous state. We were about 200 miles northwest of the Beartooth Highway 3 years ago on a "no interstate highway" trip from St. Louis to Seattle, to LA down the coast highway, back to St.Louis. I admit to the interstate from Oklahoma City to St.Louis) Here is one of my wife & the vette at McDonald Pass, on the Continental Divide,( elevation 6325 feet) on route 12 about 10 miles west of Helena MT. ( I would not have made it off the gravel parking lot, and up the dirt path to the actual top in my seven, the vette has more ground clearance) http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1465325915_DSC_0600 (Small).JPG Her is a road that we were traversing at an extremely high rate, look at the dot on the left, it's actually a house. http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/703020807_DSC_0585 (Small).JPG now you can see it http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/682954986_DSC_0586 (Small).JPG then the hills in front took us to this view http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/737477593_DSC_0588 (Small).JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 For those traveling long distance using a transport, ie pickup and trailer that want to leave it somewhere safe may consider a storage lot. Relatively safe, most have security and fences. They seem to multiply in every suburb anymore so finding one where ever shouldn't be difficult. Heh, I know some in St Louis that are temp and air controlled. I like the St Louis/Ozarks option. As there are also a couple of British car shows in the area, along with the prerequisite twisty roads. Though traveled in my semi, on some of them I could see my own trailer lic plate. Gotta love the early stages of computer mapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomove Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Aha, Ozarks are pulling ahead of MT/WY....Well, I am O.K. with that. How about such a loop (click on the pic). Five driving days of ~220 miles: http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/678850216_Ozark2009Loop.jpg Only 1500 miles from my home and with Hallet's track at start and finish: http://www.hallettracing.net/images/halletthomeimage.jpg Gert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 heh, it just hit me that i better invest in a bigger tank. Not sure my 8 gallon would be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Ozarks puts the tour out of reach for me (over 2100 miles away), so I am not pulling for it to win, but I must admit that those roads in Gert's route do look like fun! -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 The nice thing about having the two sites to consider is that we could do one in 2009 and the other in 2011. We'll leave this poll up for a bit still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnttim Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I lived in Tulsa and Broken Arrow for two years. It sucked. Not that it isn't nice compared to some places but I am sorry as far as a tourist location it is lacking. Lake Eufaula (OK) was nice and they have a wonderful State Park and swimming. But If we were going to be in that area staying more towards the Ozarks and Table Rock lake would be nicer. Also just south of Branson there is a place called Silver Dollar City. Large lot there we may be able to aquire a section of during the week. (See their maps, Beautiful Outlot). I remember that there are alot of twisty roards through there and beautiful scenery. Table rock lake has lots of camping and would offer a places to store trailers and such. Maybe if we agree to use Silver Dollar City as our base they will allow us to keep our vehicles on grounds? ($)? A nice run to Springfield to the Bass Pro shop there is always fun. That place is a two hour tour for me. Lots of interesting stuff there. Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Jerry E (Powderbrake) led a smaller tour of Sevens through the Ozarks and forwarded me what looks like a great itinerary....I'll forward that to whomever writes the "white paper". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Aha, Ozarks are pulling ahead of MT/WY....Well, I am O.K. with that. Gert I'm cool with that too. IS IT 2009 yet? Let's go already :7drive: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 hmmmm.... full days drive from the Dragon to fayetville, Ar:7head: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dude, would you swing down that way on your way West? If so, bring some water from the Cheoah to the meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomove Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I lived in Tulsa and Broken Arrow for two years. It sucked. .............. According to some route descriptions the nice part of this route proposal is indeed east of Muskogee. Tulsa and the western loop is only in there to accommodate the Hallet race track. Although, Keystone Lake and Keystone State Park (has a bunch of cabins and campsites and only a few miles from the track) might be a usable operating base. But any meeting point west of the Ozarks should make it feasible for most of the Left Coast people (...very selfish, I know). I understand that it is still too far for the Seattlites. Gert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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