yellowss7 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hard to believe that you haven't sold it yet. Maybe you'll still have a chance to autox it in a couple of weeks. Bump. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hard to believe that you haven't sold it yet. Laura can't believe it either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 NEPA has a tenative schedule. partial sites... still can't figure why u'd take a s2 where a 80hp engine could rip itself out of its mounts and travel off in a direction different than the rest of the 7. :7frog: It would have to be Ebrahimi'd to make it safe. could u stand to see ur 7 go thru the Franken7 process? Even once? :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 I've gotten some inquries and thought it might be good to post a POV on pricing. I've kept track of Superlights that have sold in the past year or so, and two that I know of went for about $34K each. I don't think either had a windshield. And one (the black one sold by BritAuto), didn't even have the 6 speed transmission. (Though it did have the Stack digital dash.) Orange has a 55 liter ATL fuel cell (ATL is the Caterham OE provider, this is the larger size that is not generally not offered in the USA) with A/N fuel line, not a swaged rig; the Raceline water rail; and the Birkinsport alternator. FYI, I'm going to be out of town next week. Best way to reach me is by cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Al: What would yours cost if purchased, assembled, new? My guess is $55-60K. Your price range seems very reasonable. The car is like new, barely broken in, all the gremlins have been exorcised, it's registered, available now, not in 6 months, etc. As I have mentioned elsewhere, I bought my Crossflow for $22.5K but due to a serious case of "up-graditis" am now closing in on the $30K range, and I am not done. And when I am done, I still wont have a car that compares with yours. Just some thoughts for any prospective buyers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 Mike, I think replacement cost would be in the mid $60k range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 If you're in the NYC area... you can see Orange in person at my friends' store: Groupe1620 on Elizabeth between Houston and Prince: Here's a link to their corporate blog: Al's car in NYC retail store... It'll be there until early May, in time for Carlisle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 How can you keep it still that long? The fact that my car is not driveable right now is making me :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 Well, you know, because I treat it like an "almost-trailer-queen"...:jester: Believe me, after driving it a few times already this season, I'm thinking long and hard about ways to keep the car in the family! Box can vouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 NEPA has a tenative schedule. partial sites... still can't figure why u'd take a s2 where a 80hp engine could rip itself out of its mounts and travel off in a direction different than the rest of the 7. :7frog: It would have to be Ebrahimi'd to make it safe. could u stand to see ur 7 go thru the Franken7 process? Even once? :ack: :toetap: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 I fielded another inquiry on the phone today about Orange, and thought I'd post here to A) bump this post up and B) offer some thoughts to other prospective buyers: My car will not represent a "steal" for the next owner, but as I've noted before....for a car with the upgrades that Orange has, in the condition that it is, I think it's fair. Look into the cost of putting in a 55 Liter ATL fuel cell properly (with a new fuel line) and you'll start to get the picture. Oh, and have you seen the sump guard on this thing? Some people have asked about the cold start issue that I've written about here and at my blog...note that this comes into play only when the outside temp is cold...like in the 20s, 30s, and 40s cold...and when the car has been sitting for a bit. Some people think this is a factor of my cold start profile being a bit off...they might be right. But in the summer, the car does fine even if it's been sitting for a few weeks as long as you make sure to feed the throttle a bit when turning it over. I've always thought of it as a tradeoff the ITBs force you to make vs. a single throttle body. Many people have asked why I'm selling. Basically I have a long list of home improvements that I need to take care of (include some stream bank restoration...when the DEP/EPA gets involved, it ain't cheap) this summer and selling the car is a lot simpler than trying to swing a home equity in the current home loan market. Finally, I advise any prospective buyer (especially if you're not close enough to visit), to ask around the Se7ens community about me and the car. I'm confident you'll get a thumbs up on both counts. It's not like I'm some random person offering a random car on eBay (no offense if you are one of these people). Orange is a known car, owned by a known club member (and officer). Which is one reason I feel okay about pricing it the way I have...maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't think so. EDIT: In the interest of full disclosure...I just got off the phone with another prospective buyer and want to mention two very minor niggles with the car. First, as mentioned in my post about roll bars, the Jill Judd half-hood I have for the car doesn't fit quite right with the Caged FIA bar that's on the car now...the car will come with the original "r500-style" bar that the top is designed for (plus the FIA). The JJ top works with the FIA, just not perfectly (the 3rd brake light bar is obscured by the top now). Also, if you look real closely, you'll see a few dimples in the driver's side skin...near the top edge, from where I've taken the belts off and the central locking knob thing has flopped onto the side skin. (Future owners, take care to not let that thing flop!) Barely noticeable unless I point it out, which I am doing. EDIT 2: The car makes a rattle when idling when you don't have a gear engaged and the clutch pedal is out..sounds scary but apparently is totally normal for the 6 speed...I can link you to the discussion about this over on blatchat.com. Here's one example of "they all do that, sir...":Blatchat thread on gearbox rattle. P.S. I thank the other USA7s members who have vouched for the car and its owner already. Not to get ahead of myself, but I've already priced out a MWE-massaged crossflow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xflow7 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 MWE-massaged crossflow = yummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Throw one of those motors into an older and lighter car and I think you could approach r300 power to weight ratios. This is all theoretical, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xflow7 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Throw one of those motors into an older and lighter car and I think you could approach r300 power to weight ratios. This is all theoretical, of course. Not to get off onto too much of a tangent, but I very much believe that. My car (with a lightly done MWE motor) is 135HP and 1150 lbs (260BHP/tonne). I'm sure they could build a 155HP-160HP motor without getting too crazy. And I estimate I could easily take 50-75 lbs out of the car by dropping the spare, lightweight seats, cycle wings etc. That gets you up around 320 BHP/tonne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 I'm sure they could build a 155HP-160HP motor without getting too crazy. And I estimate I could easily take 50-75 lbs out of the car by dropping the spare, lightweight seats, cycle wings etc. That gets you up around 320 BHP/tonne. Dave, I think a Series 2 weighs in at about 1080 lbs. And Ted Wenz sez 150 hp is pretty easily reachable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Alas, after very few miles, and very many smiles, my custodianship of the Se7en known as Orange will be coming to an end shortly. This is a very sappy way of letting everyone know that I accepted an offer from a buyer this AM. Best part of the morning? Upon hearing the news, Laura said to me "Now we just have to keep working until we get another one...." Amen to that. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGTorque Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 so sad... hope its staying local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 hope its off to a good home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xflow7 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Not sure whether to offer congratulations or condolences, but either way, I hope it's off to a good home and that it won't be long before you're back in a Seven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Glad she has a new home. Hope all works out so that you can go topless in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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