pureadrenalin Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 So my plans were going to have me build either a rotary or turboed duratec..but, after talking with a friend the other day, I got caught up in a different thought process. I love the Megabusa..but..for me it's just lacking somewhere..not really sure what, but, there is something missing. Then it hit me...what about planting a different bike engine in..something with a little more grunt, little more noise..two less cylinders and a whole lotta Italian. Yep...Ducati. Say..mm..a supercharged 1198. 200+HP, over 100lb/ft of tq, and a 10k+ redline. And a sound that just cannot be beat. I'm not sure if it can be done, or if there is even enough room under a westy bonnet to fit the big twin. But the noise and the power would have to be mental, and so much more satisfying than a Hayabusa motor. Input? 99.999%of you know these cars better than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Please build it, So I can have a ride !!! That would be Nuts !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastg Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Would be interesting. I am planning on a BE7 and have put a lot of thought into engine option. just couple of points 1. It's a new motor so it's going to very expensive to buy one, if you can even find one. 2. The engine is going to be wide at the top of the engine compared to the 'Busa, those tall individule heads. 3. Oiling will be an issue, on your own there I am sure custom sumps maybe dry sump systems will have to be built. 4. Maybe consider the Aprilia/Rotax engine. Very durable, been around a while, and it's even dry sump. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnr Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 please build it, so i can have a ride !!! That would be nuts !!! +10000000000000000000000000000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Go for it! Almost any engine can be put in anything. Frankn7 is a good example. There is a Miata out there with a Jaguar V-12 engine. A friend is getting parts together to put a Suby STi engine in his Toyota MR2 Spyder. Lots of options. I saw an Isetta at a car show with an Allison V-12 airplane engine in it. No room for a driver but touted as full functional otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slngsht Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 As Skip said, anything can be done. The real question is, do you want to go the tried and true path, or do something original on your own. You can turbo a Busa and get crazy numbers. Plenty of Busa builds around, so any problems you run into, like oiling, has been solved. It's really a matter of how adventurous you want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureadrenalin Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 I know it's a new motor, I'm sure I can find a 1098, or even a 998 for less. Honestly, I'm still about 2 years out from starting this..so..there is time. I just want to do something really unique, not that a seven isn't already..the attraction of the supercharger wail, with the thump of the ducati just gives me chills thinking about it. Time for more research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Here's some inspiration (and costs) http://www.gizmag.com/go/5828/ http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2176715 Edited June 30, 2010 by Mondo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twnpipe Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 It is so hard to decide which way to go. My favorite bike is the BMW Boxer Cup Replica for visual, sound appeal ( with open pipes) and I see the latest version is 180 + hp. German quality where it took 15 k miles to break in (like leather shoes). I would just walk out to garage to gaze at it. Deciding now to repower my car with turbo miata or Hayabusa but so many thoughts, probably not decided till I put the cash down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanG Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Stopped at the local Ducati dealer this morning, it would be a shame to hid an engine like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureadrenalin Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 I'm now torn with another option.....the new Yamaha R1 is an I4, with a really, really throaty sound. DAMN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersportsp Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I'm now torn with another option.....the new Yamaha R1 is an I4, with a really, really throaty sound. DAMN! Flat plane crank. How about an inline six out of the upcoming BMW K1600 bikes? http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/bmw-unveils-new-6cylinder-k1600gt-and-gtl-89729.html "160 horsepower at approximately 7500 rpm with a maximum torque rating of 129 ft-lbs reached at 5000 rpm. Impressively, BMW claims 70% of maximum torque is available at just 1500 rpm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskossie Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 The BMW 6-cyl is not a very high-revving engine, for a bike. Appears to be almost like a small car engine in a bike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersportsp Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 The BMW 6-cyl is not a very high-revving engine, for a bike. Appears to be almost like a small car engine in a bike.... 8500 rpm is max power, red line is not quoted. My Ducati 900 SS/SP made max power about 7500. That was a 2 valve air cooled motor though. It could rev higher, you just didn't need to. Torque is why I think this motor would be interesting, in that it actually has some. Plus, being an inline six it should be smooth as silk (and sound great). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 It is pretty low but the initial ones are for touring bikes. If they come out with a sportier version later it might be higher if the mechanicals are up to it and the cams more aggressive to warrant it revving higher. But you'd lose some of that low-end torque. Alaskossie I think your assessment is a good one - thus it would be a good seven motor. I doubt it has a reverse tho, ala Goldwing. I haven't compared ratios with high revving bikes but the juicy amount of torque probably comes from a longer stroke ratio compared to peakier motors, thus lower redline. This is topic already being kicked around in another thread: http://usa7s.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4368 Being the past owner of a Honda CBX in-line six & even toyed with the idea of putting one in a seven just for the sound. Video with sound is posted here: http://usa7s.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2498 IIRC the Bim six it is only 20 inches wide and guestimating from photos the engine looks about 24 inches from the front of the valve cover to the rear drive output. And about the same height depending on if you kept the stock intake or fabbed something with less height. Already dry-sumped with built-in tank. A fairly tidy package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnr Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Jalopnik just posted about this: http://jalopnik.com/5639043/spartan-v-a-ducati+powered-featherweight-track-menace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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