redgoose Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 REDGOOSE IS IN THE MARKET FOR A TRAILER. GOOD USED OR NEW.. ANY LEADS OR INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED...THANKS (RON):party: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Ron, there was a nice looking trailer for sale not far from me a couple of weeks ago. I'll drive by and see if it's still there. Looked like a snowmobile trailer as it had a front door that had a ramp out. Looked really nice, If it's still available, I'll get more info for you. (does this mean you may join Croc and I as regulars? :jester:) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTexasS2K Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Are you looking for an open or closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian7 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 no-brainer, http://www.racingjunk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoefi Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Looked like a snowmobile trailer as it had a front door that had a ramp out. Be careful with snowmobile trailers. They usually use axles that are narrower than normal. This way, on a snowy logging road, the trailer tires can run in tracks made by the tow vehicle's tires. This means the trailer floor is usually quite high so that the inner fenders don't stick out up the floor far from the interior walls. Tough to load a low car when the floor is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redgoose Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Ron, there was a nice looking trailer for sale not far from me a couple of weeks ago. I'll drive by and see if it's still there. Looked like a snowmobile trailer as it had a front door that had a ramp out. Looked really nice, If it's still available, I'll get more info for you. (does this mean you may join Croc and I as regulars? :jester:) Tom yes it does. i am really kooking forward to driving without an instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redgoose Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Are you looking for an open or closed? closed if you please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 yes it does. i am really kooking forward to driving without an instructor Great news Ron. Have you called Don F. yet? I drove by the house that had the trailer for sale but it was gone. Sorry. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ron, I spoke with my mechanic today and he has a 24 ft. Pace trailer for sale. It also has airconditioning. It may be a little more trailer than you need, but you can always fill it with extra tires, etc. It has New tires and brakes. Good overall condition. I think he paid over 9K for it. He is asking $5K for it. He wants to get a larger one for his racing BMW, and all the parts and tools he brings to the 12 hour enduro races he does. Let me know if your interested in it and I'll put you in touch with him. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookwheel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I would really consider the 24 Pace, more trailer than you need, but you can really outfit them out for comfort with the rest of the room. We have a 24' Pace and it has a generator, shower, cabinets, sink, microwave, fridge and TV in the front. Makes for a nice place to hang out when not running or to even spend the night in on occasion. Plus keeps the Admiral happy on hot or rainy days. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v640/snookwheel/?action=view¤t=P1030493.jpg&mediafilter=noflash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjslutz Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I have been thinking of selling my Birkin and have an very light all aluminum trailer. It is single axle with surge / disk brakes. There should be photos here. 985 LBS EW / 2990 GVW. It is very stable at "any speed". I have it set at 90 LBS at the hitch with Birkin loaded. Enclosure can be removed in 1 hour to use as an open trailer. I pull the Birkin with an 2010 VW Jetta JSW. @ less than 2300 LBS with car it drives like there is nothing behind it. I need another A/C to teach the grandson to fly, so the Birkin and trailer both will be sold. It started as a new ALUMA Bed Size: 78" x 141" to out side of fenders 102" Tires: 14" You can email me at gjslutz1(at)roadrunner.com Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I would really consider the 24 Pace, more trailer than you need, but you can really outfit them out for comfort with the rest of the room. We have a 24' Pace and it has a generator, shower, cabinets, sink, microwave, fridge and TV in the front. Makes for a nice place to hang out when not running or to even spend the night in on occasion. Plus keeps the Admiral happy on hot or rainy days. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v640/snookwheel/?action=view¤t=P1030493.jpg&mediafilter=noflash Wow ! Where do you put the car ? I have a 24' trailer too and can't see having all that and still fit the car inside. You did a great job, very nicely laid out, very comfy ! I also recommend an enclosed trailer so long as you have the vehicle to pull it. Mine weights 7200 lbs with the Miata in it, likely about 6200 lbs with the Lotus. Weight isn't as big an issue as the billboard wind effect. My Tahoe will pull it but it really strains and side wind makes me want a drink. My F150 crew cab 4x4 with electronic sway control makes for a much better tow. Having air conditioning, a generator, an air compressor, a variety of tools and spare wheels make track events more fun. I don't know that you have as much of a heat issue up north but down here in Florida, going in the trailer between runs and cooling off with the A/C running is very beneficial. By the way, I bought my trailer new for $5k but had to do everything else myself. So the Pace trailer already fitted at $5K is a very good price. Compared to the Pace, my trailer is pretty crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 As a newish owner of a 16' enclosed trailer, I'd say the 24 footer is serious overkill. These trailers are not exactly a joy to pull as they compromise everything you do in your tow vehicle: stop, go, maneuver, back up, use drive thru's and, where in the H do you park??? Gas mileage in my Touareg TDI is 32-34mpg at 70 mph w/o trailer, 12 with it. For a 24 footer you will need a serious tow vehicle that will get seriously lousy mileage, even w/o the trailer. I agree that once you are at the event, a nicely outfitted and equipped trailer is wonderful, just be aware there is a downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimrankin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 To a point size does, but it's mostly the frontal area that causes the milage reduction, not the weight unless your climbing a mountain. Since most trailers over 16-18' are about the same frontal area as a 24-30' it's really not a big difference in what you see for milage. As for size, just think about your garage. No matter how much space you have it always seems like not enough. I do agree that a 16' trailer, properly set up, is probably all you "need" for a "7". I also know that I wasn't looking for a 24' trailer when I got mine but glad I have it now. As for towing: I never had a problem with towing it with my 1500 Silverado, maybe because it had a long wheel base extra cab and 8' bed, electric brakes on both axles and set the tongue weight to where it felt the best by experimenting a bit. Even pretty good cross winds and going through the mountains on two laners wasn't a big deal. Modern vehicles really are much better every year at braking and control. My 2500HD Silverado doesn't seem to know it's back there till we get to a gap pump. I try to keep the tow speeds down to about 65 (Ca. limits trailers to 55 but the car traffic is usually moving at about 75 on the open roads so I feel like I'm a problem if I go 55). Drops about 6-8 MPG with the trailer but I just had a Lear Model #122 camper shell installed and I think it will gain me back about 2 MPG. It's an exact match to my last camper shell (really high at the back of the shell) and it gained me about that on the last truck. In short, 16' will work but you may end up with "trailer envy" when someone parks a 20' next to you, just rolls the car out and everything is "set up" by just hanging the tie down straps in the closet. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 To a point size does, but it's mostly the frontal area that causes the milage reduction, not the weight unless your climbing a mountain. Since most trailers over 16-18' are about the same frontal area as a 24-30' it's really not a big difference in what you see for milage. As for size, just think about your garage. No matter how much space you have it always seems like not enough. I do agree that a 16' trailer, properly set up, is probably all you "need" for a "7". I also know that I wasn't looking for a 24' trailer when I got mine but glad I have it now. As for towing: I never had a problem with towing it with my 1500 Silverado, maybe because it had a long wheel base extra cab and 8' bed, electric brakes on both axles and set the tongue weight to where it felt the best by experimenting a bit. Even pretty good cross winds and going through the mountains on two laners wasn't a big deal. Modern vehicles really are much better every year at braking and control. My 2500HD Silverado doesn't seem to know it's back there till we get to a gap pump. I try to keep the tow speeds down to about 65 (Ca. limits trailers to 55 but the car traffic is usually moving at about 75 on the open roads so I feel like I'm a problem if I go 55). Drops about 6-8 MPG with the trailer but I just had a Lear Model #122 camper shell installed and I think it will gain me back about 2 MPG. It's an exact match to my last camper shell (really high at the back of the shell) and it gained me about that on the last truck. In short, 16' will work but you may end up with "trailer envy" when someone parks a 20' next to you, just rolls the car out and everything is "set up" by just hanging the tie down straps in the closet. LOL. Well stated. When I had my F250HD with the twin turbo 6.5L diesel (twin turbo means it drinks fuel faster) my mileage at 75 to 80 mph was around 8. If I dropped to 65, it would go up to 10 to 10.5. If I got behind a semi and really got up close (Yikes that's stupid) my mileage would go up to 13 or more at 80 mh. F250 was too rough riding so I traded it in for a long wheelbase F150 King Ranch with built in brake controller and electonic sway control. Good ride, all the luxuries of a caddie, and pulls fuel like I owned an oil well, maybe 7 mpg at 75 mph, and maybe 8.5 at 65-68 mph. Like you said, its the width and not the length that's important (Does this sound like an Extenz commercial :smilielol5:) Having said all that, I'm not thinking about building a small single axle open tilt trailer like the one Brunton sells for going to autoX and other closer events. I'd still take the 24' trailer to major track events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHKflyer52 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I have to agree with Jim on the fuel mileage as I have a 28' cargo deck trailer (32' from center of ball to back of trailer) and yes it seems huge when the 7 is inside of it but it also has enough room to haul anything else you might wish to transport such as a tool chest and jack and stands or spare tire sets either in front or behind the car. I also tow it with an F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab Diesel that averages 14 to 15 MPG with the trailer in tow depending if I am running 65 MPH or just a little faster depending on traffic conditions. My normal average MPG without the trailer running 65 MPH with the cruse set is 18.5 MPG and 14.7 in town traffic. By the way I do not suggest that you use the cruse control when towing for safety reasons but that is just my belief and also what the manufacture of my tow vehicle recommends when towing. The draw backs that I see with a 16' trailer are these; only a seven or a Miata or similar wheel base car will fit, little to no storage room on the deck for other items such as a tool chest unless small, cost is not much less than a 24' to 28' enclosed trailer due to the fewer number of car hauler trailers made in that size from what I have seen that are available, payload is usually lower than the 24' to 28' trailers. Plus's for the smaller trailer; can be stored inside most 24' long garages, easier to control when backing up to a point (factor of tongue length and overall length), less expensive to register in some states due to length. One thing to consider is the tow vehicle ability to properly stop the trailer when loaded and the max tongue weight of the tow vehicle with or with out trailer brakes as that is where most folks get into trouble when towing a trailer as the tow vehicle is either maxed out or is just to small for the trailer and not able to safely stop a trailer larger than a small utility trailer in an emergency situation. Also consider a sway control and load leveler hitch as they seem to pay for them selves if your doing any long tows or traveling on the freeways but that is just my belief. Here is a link to the setup I have: http://usa7s.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4360&page=2 Post # 18 Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookwheel Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 We get around 8.5 to 9 mpg towing the 24' trailer with our 5.7 Tundra, keeping the speed 60 to 65. And the Stalker fits in fine, even with all the 'stuff' up front! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/snookwheel/P1040547.jpg One feature to consider for any enclosed trailer, is an awning. A wonderful thing to have for extra room out of the sun or rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'll chime in here for smaller trailers. I have a 7 x 14 Haulmark LoHauler trailer. It is designed for motorcycles and is 20" lower than the 8 x 16 trailer I had before. You have to duck your head as it is only 56" tall inside. It has a low floor and full length rear door that swings down to be the ramp and my lowered cars have no problem getting in and out of the trailer. With the lower height, V-nose and narrower width my gas mileage went from 7 mpg in the 8 x 16 trailer to 11 mpg driving 75 mph. I tow it with an '11 Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi engine. I can maintain the speed limit and more going up I-70 to the Eisenhower tunnel and over Vail Pass. It will even get back up to speed if slowed by traffic. Its a good fit for the Caterham and a tight fit for a Miata but I can still carry a spare set of wheels or my large liquid oxygen container in the V-nose. The rest goes into the camper shell on the truck. It tows like a dream, never a problem with sway, stopping or anything else other than a propensity to flat tires on the RR tire. My tire shop guy tells me the front tire kicks up the nails on the edge of the road and the rear one catches them. Four flats on that one tire so far. It obviously won't accommodate the live-in niceties like the bigger trailers but it provides shade and is comfortable if the side and rear doors are open. I carry a few camp chairs and people always seem to congregate in the trailer when it is hot or raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 We get around 8.5 to 9 mpg towing the 24' trailer with our 5.7 Tundra, keeping the speed 60 to 65. And the Stalker fits in fine, even with all the 'stuff' up front! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/snookwheel/P1040547.jpg One feature to consider for any enclosed trailer, is an awning. A wonderful thing to have for extra room out of the sun or rain. Very nice, almost like staying home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) I have been looking into a trailer a little recently as well. As it happens, the RV show rolled through Calgary last weekend, and I fell in lust with a VRV trailer there. looks like everything I want in a toy hauler. The farthest bench folds up, and the two closest raise up and out of the way. http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/nivaguy/707c5670.jpg Edited February 2, 2012 by Jackal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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