Bruce K Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 we are working on a honda s2000-powered wcm s2k ultralite car. the external carter fuel pump has failed. these pumps do not seem to be available new at this time. standard honda pump is in-tank, which will not work for our fuel cell. has anyone used any other fuel pump for the wcm s2k? we are looking at the GSL394-WALBRO. is this a good choice? thanks!
Mondo Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I have an external fuel pump.. will check to see if I can tell what it is
Bruce K Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 thanks for quick responses. Mondo, if you don't mind, let me know what you are using, as well. thanks!
powderbrake Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I am using a fuel pump from AutoZone, I believe it was for a Ford truck. Part number E7052 from Master. Use big wires , these pumps draw a ton of current, use a relay, don't try to control directly from the ECU.
rss Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 bruce, i can't help you with the external pump -- i'm running a walbro high pressure in-tank pump, but have you replaced the fuel lines as well as reconditioning the fuel tank? i ask because i kept the original rubber fuel lines for a while after installing the new fuel cell and pump, which was a big mistake. i later discovered that the original hoses were only rated for 50 psi. the increase in pressure from the new pump plus years of alcohol blended fuel eating away at the lines from the inside resulted in rupture of the supply line, soaking me in gasoline. the hoses looked fine and did not feel soft. i now have braided stainless/ptfe lines.
Bruce K Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 10-4, guys - i swapped out stock rubber lines for double-stainless braided racing fuel lines. also, the tank was already plumbed for an exterior pump - i should have noted that to save your time. my problem is that the carter p74932m (currently fitted) no longer appears to be available, and is also about twice the price of most good hi-pressure/volume race-capable fuel pumps. moreover, the carter is specced for various pickup trucks, so i am guessing that the price reflects scarcity rather than capability or quality.
RGTorque Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 i have a walbro pump installed thats great. ill check the number later today.
Mondo Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Sorry it took so long. Mine says "MSD Management" on it but I can't find the model number. Looks like this one: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-2225 There's also a couple big ass fuel filters, one before and one after the fuel pump (rebuildable?). I remember that the first filters less than the one after the pump. I think it's all road race stuff as that's what the shop specializes in. Wish I could be more help. Edited July 9, 2013 by Mondo
WestTexasS2K Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Mondo that unit doesn't have enough pressure. You need a 255gph and 55-60 psi. I think this is a better option. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpn-gsl392
Mondo Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Good to know, thanks Loren. Surprised it didn't show up lacking during the dyno runs... or maybe it did and I left some HP on the table;)
xcarguy Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Running an external Walbro on my LS6 powered Stalker; works great.
Bruce K Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Mondo that unit doesn't have enough pressure. You need a 255gph and 55-60 psi. I think this is a better option. [/url]http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpn-gsl392 thanks from me, as well, loren. i sent back the walbro gsl393 and ordered the more-powerful gsl392 that you specified. just in time, too - the 393 was about to be installed.
Bruce K Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 what fuel filter do you guys use? with the walbro gsl392 pump (recommended by loren) i installed a russell 650133 competition filter with a small cleanable screen. the filter is mounted inline on the top of the tank. here's the summit racing link: http://www.summitracing.com/search?keyword=rus-650133&SortBy=None&SortOrder=Ascending
WestTexasS2K Posted September 9, 2013 Posted September 9, 2013 I like the cleanable units myself as well. There are dozens of manufactures that make them. It will depends on how your fuel system is set up. If you have an external pump I prefer to put one before the pump.
11Budlite Posted September 9, 2013 Posted September 9, 2013 Here's a photo of my fuel supply system. I'm running a Walbro GSL394 external pump, Russell pre-filter with a cleanable screen (40-micron?), and a Canton CM-15 fuel filter mounted after the pump with a 1-micron element. It's all mounted with rubber insulated clamps and is much quieter than when it was mounted to the bulkhead behind the seat. If I run the tank low enough I can change the CM-15 element without spilling any fuel.
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