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In my defense, I am easily confused as it all looks the same from 36000 feet as I fly back and forth from east and west coast. One day I will get a chance to land and check out the friendly people. Sorry again Whizzy - good luck with the sale.

Good to see the Robin Hood is moving down into a price band where it can be considered seriously for sale. Or is this a separate sister car to the earlier one advertised? I think it may be a new one with those wheels as the sister had the panasports? Coffee Break - can you clear up my confusion? The engine is the 1.6L Pinto. Sold in the UK in the Escort, Cortina and the Capri but not the US. There were two - one was 1593cc and the other was 1598cc. Power ranged from 60hp to a scorching 75hp. Not sure which one is this one in the Robin Hood. Not particularly exciting but good solid engines. Tom C/Birkin America is selling a Birkin on Ebay. 2013 Duratec. Lots of options. BIN of $42k or bidding at $25k with 3 days to go http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-/191807605238?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ca89fc9f6:g:awIAAOSwzgRWw0HK&item=191807605238 A couple of repeat ads from longtime hopeful dealer sellers http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S4-/272137610661?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f5caa65a5:g:wk8AAOSwe7BWxTnI&item=272137610661 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-/281934262755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41a49771e3:g:E54AAOSwJcZWee~X&item=281934262755 1972 S4 with BDR in Denver. Asking $23900. No photos listed in the ad but it was listed in this thread before where I posted photos (I think). http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5450542723.html 1984 Caterham 7, RHD, 1800cc crossflow. Been for sale on and off for over 2 years as I once tried to bid on it. Asking $25,559 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/5454376429.html The Westfield in OKLAHOMA....not KS as I had mentioned in the earlier listings. All those cornfields have me easily confused. $18950 new lower asking price. This is a better deal than the Robin Hood as it is a better design chassis. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5442826245.html Tod's 1974 S4 in south Jersey for $26500 http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5455952521.html Hmmm...tough choice in S4's today - a Lotus Twin Cam or a BDR? Its back http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/5442823270.html 2016 Dax Rush kit for $2100 http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5413276327.html Hemmings and classiccars.com have additional ads to check out. The Wirewheel Birkin is listed as sold. Anyone on here bought it?

Sorry Whizzy, I probably did say it was in KS in the Ebay/Craigslist thread at one point because I am easily confused!

Hi Bruce Yes, just the standard ECU. My CSR has the stock locked Cosworth ECU. I have also seen it work on an R500 using the standard locked ECU and I tested it successfully on a Duratec roadsport. So its not just a Cosworth thing. Only works where you have an MBE ECU though. The ECU was always pumping out CAN signals through the J1962 plug as you could alway read the signals real time by Easimap and some people had rewired the plug to feed data loggers for track work. What AIM did was work out how to log the MBE ECU signals to overlay with GPS/lap time and video on a very simple plug and play basis. It was just luck that Noble uses MBE ECUs so you could extend that work into Caterhams. Its not perfect as I need to invert the TPS signal and I am validating all channels to make sure they are accurate. There are other channels logged not shown on that test video - I excluded them as they were giving strange values that I did not trust. I bet thats because they are labelled wrong and I just have to relabel them correctly. Cheers mike

One Westfield S2000 was being put together by Matt last year. I wonder if he is finished yet? I doubt they are just fair weather cars although thats all the owners may be good for in CA. :jester: Could be useful as a canoe in the Pacific Northwest?

Looks like Shane is having crispy duck for dinner? What sauce to serve with it...? :rofl:

Yes both the Traqmate, VBox/Racelogic and AIM analysis software supports track segmentation for better analysis. Even my old Racechrono Touchscreen Pro did this. Segmentation is very helpful as it shows where you are making progress and where you are not. Not totally sure but I think they started moving away from Pectel in the middle of the Zetec era. My former yellow 2004 Caterham used the Ford Oak ECU (which actually had a working OBDII). However, my current 2004 maroon Caterham has an MBE. However the Duratecs have consistently been using the MBE from what I have seen. The Noble uses an MBE ECU which is why the AIM can read the Caterham ECU when you set the AIM SOLO DL to Noble. I am no electrician but I managed to install one on my old yellow SV under the dashboard. The CSR has it on the rear firewall between the seats which seems to be the standard Caterham positioning. I vaguely recall someone saying newer cars have a wiring harness that allows an easy splice and installation there. It certainly helps with a camera on the roll bar. It may be worth a search of Blatchat to check that. I am not aware of any system that this would integrate with, let alone retaining that functionality. You could use Race Render to overlay data (comma delimited format in a spreadsheet) but doing so would force you to fix your video perspective. At any rate, I find bluetooth or wifi to be somewhat hit or miss with our cars due to a lot of electrical interference from unshielded electronics. The basic remotes for cameras seem to work ok these days but bluetooth microphones do not in certain parts of the seven and my experiments at live streaming video have always been failures from electrical noise in the picture and signal bandwidth issues.

The ideal permanent installation is the one that Tom describes. If I wanted it permanent I would copy Tom's layout. I move my unit between cars and take it with me for the overseas track days. So I use a combination of the Backing plate at here http://store.m-world.us/collections/aim-solo-solo-dl-spare-parts/products/backing-plate-aim-solo-all-models to which I mount a ball mount so I can use the Ram mounting system to clamp it to one of the tubes running around the dash/chassis. http://www.rammount.com The smartycam base unit is also anchored via a RAM phone mount with a ball head and then to a chassis tube via clamp. It all works but I do get into a tangle of cables but that is the price of keeping things portable so I can move it around different cars. I bought mine through M World. Very helpful with the set up plus he has clarifying instructions on his website that you will not find in the instructions or on the AIM website. http://www.m-world.us/welcome.html M World also did a custom split head lead so that I could have both 12v power and an external mic. The bit about specifying it as a Noble is done by you. As part of the set up you have to set the car ECU so that it will read through the OBDII plug. When you set it as a Noble it will just read the data. http://www.aim-sportline.com/download/ecu/stock/noble/NobleM400_MBE975D_103_eng.pdf

Add a George H to the list above. Tom C kindly sent the email along to his Birkin buddies and I have an email from George saying he has it marked in the calendar and plans to attend.

You definitely need a minimum 10Hz GPS system to get the level of accuracy given the speeds we are going. But you don't have to pay much for getting that feature - about $100 for the QStarz GPS receiver that I used prior to getting the AIM Solo. I used a Vbox/Racelogic a few years back on a Caterham at Oulton Park. At the time I found it was inferior for video quality but the data gathering was (at the time) better than its competition. Time has moved on and they still offer the same performance monitoring units but the competition has caught up and while they have upgraded to HD cameras but you will still get a better image off a GoPro. Their analysis software included in the kit is superb but you can buy that separately. I remember it being a pain to install and we were just using GPS data. Short answer - I am not sure it is worth the premium. For maybe $500 less you could buy the equivalent kit from AIM that does everything you want on a plug and play basis with analysis software. I suppose, the question to ask here is how much expandability do you want? None of the options are really truly expandable other than the professional versions or the Traqmate approach which is the only true modular option. The logger market segments look something like this: Cheap - sub $300 (use the phone as the camera or buy a cheap camera) Harry's Laptimer QStarz Observe GoPro (or similar results) Modest - $300-500 (buy a separate camera and sync data after event using Race Render/etc.) Racechrono Touchscreen Pro (I used one of these for years and loved it) VBox Sport AIM Solo / AIM Mychron Light Lap timer A bunch of motorbike track loggers Middle Ground Amateur $500-$800 (still no integrated camera on these - buy a separate camera and sync data after the event) Vbox Performance Box/Drift Box/Laptimer options AIM Solo DL AIM Mychron (fuller featured versions) Traqmate Basic High End Amateur $800-$1800 (takes the middle ground options and adds an integrated camera) Traqmate with Traqdash and integrated camera options Aim Solo DL with Aim smartycam Professional $2000 up (with integrated cameras) VBox HD/Lite/Pro AIM DaVid Race keeper - one of the NJMP regulars has a business installing data and video loggers and coaching drivers. He prefers these for their ruggedness and ability to be flexible with data collection. He says he has less problems compared with the other brands. He sells all units. Unless you are going pro level with a permanently installed professional quality unit then I suspect your primary options will be with the higher end amateur Traqmate or AIM options. Pros and cons of each. Pros - Traqmate has good setup and service assistance - generally needed for some of the fiddly stuff. - Traqmate is the only true modular unit. You buy the basic unit and you can later buy the add on parts to expand its capabilities. - AIM Solo and smarty cam is true plug and play on a Caterham. Other than a 12v plug it needs no wiring. Can be easily shifted to other cars. - Both companies have great analysis software. - Both video options are now at good quality GoPro level. For years this was not the case. Both seem fairly reliable from anecdotal pit row observations. Both brands are well represented with Traqmate being more frequently seen. - The AIM unit gives the impression of being more rugged than traqmate - solid metal cases, quite heavy. - Both will automatically sync the data and video - after track day sync of data at home can get boring (I did it for a long time!) - The AIM unit is the only one where you can plug into J1962 plug on a Caterham Duratec and get full data synced onto video along with GPS data. The rest require some hard wiring. Cons - Traqmate is not as plug and play as the AIM but that said its not massively difficult to set up either. - AIM's support is pretty poor. Set up instructions are atrocious. Luckily the product is fairly easy to sort out. There are a few reps who will help out on the finer points of tech issues, which is lucky. - None of the analysis softwares like Mac's - windows only please. Prior to making my decision I tried both softwares in a variety of windows emulation modes on my macbook and they all crash. - Set up software is clunky for both but manageable so not a major issue.

If you get an AIM Solo DL and then get the J1962 plug connection adapter then you will catch GPS data plus read a variety of data direct off the Caterham ECU. The ECU pumps out CAN data which is not OBDII but is readable for the AIM Solo. You will need to specify your type of vehicle as a Noble, since they use the same ECU as Caterham. Works on my CSR and seen it working on Jeff S's R500. The data feeds are shown in this youtube test I did Its ECU data and it is giving some unusual readings on some of the data channels eh? But the intake temps were useful for validating my cool air intake modification. For cameras you can manually overlay the data onto multiple Go Pro footage via the RaceRender application - its very easy to do once the track day is over. Or you can be lazy and buy the SmartyCam system from Aim which integrates automatically. You will need to set up a 12v cigarette light power outlet as it runs batteries down pretty quickly if you are recording multiple sessions in a day.

1972 Lotus 7 S4 in Washington. Repeat listing. 18 hours to go and bidding at $14699 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Lotus-super-seven-GT-/172091591560?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2811754b88:g:RYYAAOSwuYVWmYT8&item=172091591560 1984 Caterham Seven. Looks really nice in the photos. Snowflake wheels. 5000 miles since 1984? Possibly not since they look like VDO gauges and I know how reliable those are not but I don't think it changes the price this will sell at. Photos show an owner with excellent taste in classic cars. I don't think he will be sad to see the wife go at all. Bidding at $7600 with 6 days to run. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-/111904231656?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a0e0310e8:g:iC0AAOSwll1Wv8Xe&item=111904231656 Poor guy - he is also selling off the rest of his collection for the divorce. Why couldn't she be happy with the vacuum cleaner and the pots and pans as a fair exchange? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Cooper-Cooper-/111902463511?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a0de81617:g:FcUAAOSwPc9WvQ3h&item=111902463511 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-RMB-2-5-/111901762327?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a0ddd6317:g:cxcAAOSwG-1Wv3GZ&item=111901762327 Locost seven autocross car. Hayabusa engine. No title or street registration. Buy it now of $8125 Day and a half to run. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Other-/281930699872?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41a4611460:g:jxkAAOSwqrtWm-0S&item=281930699872 Advertised as a Super Seven R500. Its really a Locost. Suzuki GSXR 1000cc engine. A very good looking build. It was built by Bob Fine according to the ad and I have heard of his builds before in the Locost community so there is some 'pedigree.' Not sure it was a good idea to take photos for the Ebay ad in a garage full of hearses? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-r-500-/322001944210?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4af8cfbe92:g:QAYAAOSwQYZWt4Fz&item=322001944210 http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nrYAAOSwPc9Wt4KV/s-l1600.jpg Bidding at $12000 with 15 hours to run. The Robin Hood is back. Bidding at $14k with 19 hours to run http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Sport-/262280765144?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d1126ded8:g:XfcAAOSw5dNWqSo1&item=262280765144 Repeat...again....this time at $25695 http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/ctd/5442378117.html Anyone in Honolulu wanting to sell? Here is a buyer looking! http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/cto/5383752381.html I could not find the Craigslist ad but I know the Westfield in KS is still for sale out there. Nice looking Stalker in East TX at $23000 http://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5411767782.html New Dax Rush kit $2100 http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5413276327.html Hemmings ads http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/super-seven/1800207.html http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/westfield/1792075.html http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/7/1791550.html http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1783033.html http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1763637.html Classic Cars.com http://classiccars.com/listings/view/715384/1969-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-spokane-washington-99208 http://classiccars.com/listings/view/751217/1965-lotus-super-seven-for-sale-in-washington-missouri-63090

That is a screaming deal! Great find! Sure there are things to fix but the sale price allows that. I could not find the auction buyers fee but allowing for that a $16.5k area price is pretty good compared to the market price range you mention which I agree with. Russo and Steele are not my favorite auctioneers for buying and selling. Their websites are always loaded late with all information so as a buyer you are scrambling to get your paperwork in and processed and then find a way there (why go unless the car you want is on the auction roster). Late promotion has to hurt the seller prospects. They won't tell you detail information on the car you want in advance - so you have incur the expense to go there. An example might be that you want to know the chassis number of this Lotus 7 (since it is not in the auction lot listing) but the only way you might be able to do that is go there for the pre-auction physical inspection since I have found my advance phone calls rebuffed. But if you are lucky the stars will align on great deals like this. Not sure which auction company would be best suited for this car but R&S is possibly the best of a really mismatched bunch of major auction houses since their auction roster is more eclectic than Mecum's all American, less high end than Gooding/Christies/etc, and less billionaire playground than Barrett Jackson. I would argue that it should never have gone to auction as that is not the best way to sell a seven, witness the Stalker that went through Mecum...

Ain't that the heart of the problem!!!! :iagree:

Sorry if I am missing your point but no modification is needed unless you are referring to bolting on the roll bar? The little known secret to S1's is that it was designed to go on track as well as the road - the chassis needs no modifications for a roll bar - check your car out for the manufactured mounting points. Standard suspension and set up works just great on track. Superformance just never did anything to make this known to owners - which is good for buyers today.

The S1 is a very capable car on track. Not many people have tried it there so it does not get the reputation it deserves. The chassis has roll bar mounts built in. DaveD on this forum has done 2 bolt in roll bars for S1s for the odd track day. They can be easily installed for the day and then removed afterwards so you are not spooling the looks. I am sure he could share the plan/specs if you PM him. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/mjohnson555/seats/CSR/2015%20Sevens%20Event%20at%20NJMP/8%20IMG_0901_zpsjhqigjeu.jpg Here is a photo on S1Steve's car http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/mjohnson555/seats/CSR/2015%20Sevens%20Event%20at%20NJMP/8%20IMG_0901_zpsjhqigjeu.jpg Dave has a different shape on his car that works well http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/mjohnson555/seats/CSR/2015%20Sevens%20Event%20at%20NJMP/WSPS-untitled-N.J.M.P.%20Drivers%20Club%20July%204th%20Track%20Day%20%20BBQ%20July%202015-0174_zpsekcwlsij.jpghttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/mjohnson555/seats/CSR/2015%20Sevens%20Event%20at%20NJMP/WSPS-untitled-N.J.M.P.%20Drivers%20Club%20July%204th%20Track%20Day%20%20BBQ%20July%202015-0174_zpsekcwlsij.jpg

This next one is intriguing. Custom Build in the style of an Atom. [ATTACH=CONFIG]10418[/ATTACH] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Turbo-Racecar-2015-Like-Ariel-Atom-Lotus-7-300-HP-Trackday-Fun-/291675399303?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43e9356487:g:DtwAAOSwbdpWZvR0&item=291675399303 Asking $58000 buy it now Tod's 1974 Lotus 7 S4 asking $26500 in South Jersey. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5401477921.html 2016 Dax Rush kit - asking $2700 http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5413276327.html

Scratch built seven utilizing Caterham pieces. Toyota engine. Buy it now is $16k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-fast-/252276868568?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abcdf85d8:g:5VMAAOSwvUlWqSsd&item=252276868568 1964 Lotus 7 S2 SB1428 $24500 buy it now. Now its not a show queen but it looks a honest little driving car that would reward with some clean up and attention to cosmetics. RHD. Seems quite good value on the surface if the chassis number checks out? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S2-/252274801106?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abcbff9d2:g:lkAAAOSwUV9Wossq&item=252274801106 Nice looking Superformance S1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S1-/191797209419?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ca801294b:g:VYYAAOSwoydWsKgT&item=191797209419 Current bid is $15600 with 2 days to run. Interesting Locost R1 powered IRS project in LA. Build thread is here http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2837 Sale on Craigslist is here http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5436829876.html Asking $9650 1995 Westfield is still available in OK. Ad mentions no price but owner has listed it on separate thread here. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5382954449.html Locost project in KS City - will take $6000 http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5421693436.html Texas Stalker - V6. Been on this thread before. Asking $23000 http://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5411767782.html

Oops too slow. For the record here are a few threads on the topic and making the Sterling Excel immobilizer work better. http://213-04.com/t.asp?id=224506 http://213-04.com/t.asp?id=221984 http://213-04.com/t.asp?id=237160 Consensus fix seems to be unwind the aerial around the steering column/barrel to allow the immobilizer fob touch the end of it.

Its turning up tomorrow - your wife texted and said you were needed for chores.

Yes that red Audi ran out of brakes behind me and I ended up spinning off track trying to avoid being hit as he plowed off track next to me. He said in the pits later that his Audi could out brake anything else and that it was slower traffic that was causing his brake fade - go figure! That was the closest I have come to being hit in a Seven. He was a big reason why Tom and I wanted seven only track days after that.

Hi Ron Hope you are doing well? Just to check, a bob starter is some type of key fob thing which you press a button to either immobilize or de-immobilize the ignition system? Or is it a remote starter? I am trying to understand whether its the immobilizer that is giving trouble or if it is the actual key ignition system itself. If it is the immobilizer key fob you wish to remove then that is not going to be solved by what Tom has suggested as we need to find the immobilizer box and remove it from the wiring. Is there any brand on that key fob? Have you tried replacing the battery inside? There is a lot of information on blatchat about this topic but we need a little more information from you to clarify. Cheers mike

It would help you be popular with the ladies! :cooldude:

Locost build utilizing some Caterham parts. Bidding current at $6300 with 3 days to go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-fast-/252269097279?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abc68f13f:g:5VMAAOSwvUlWqSsd&item=252269097279 Locost build autocross car not titled or street registered. But it now of $8000 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Other-/281920853074?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41a3cad452:g:jxkAAOSwqrtWm-0S&item=281920853074 Seven clone chassis that has been advertised for years on craigslist is now on Ebay. Starting bid is $4850 and from memory the craigslist ads always wanted $5850 for it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Seven-early-7-CLONE-/151629236779?hash=item234dce8a2b:g:u8wAAOSw-7RVEZfq&vxp=mtr The "1980" Robin Hood is here at $29995. One of the forum members went and checked it out last week - hopefully he adds some commentary on here. I use quotation marks for the year as Robin Hood started in 1984... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Sport-/262262639403?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d10124b2b:g:XfcAAOSw5dNWqSo1&item=262262639403 Original Lotus 7 S2 1964. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S2-/252265312226?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abc2f2fe2:g:lkAAAOSwUV9Wossq&item=252265312226 Asking $24900 buy it now. Seems a good price for an honest little driver? SB1428 is the chassis number to check out. Anyone want a Corvette powered Radio Flyer? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-350-Engine-Auto-Parade-Show-Car-/231827942875?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35fa05addb:g:O84AAOSwX~dWqUp0&item=231827942875 Westfield in OK still for sale. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5382954449.html Stalker in TX back up for sale Asking $23000 http://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5411767782.html Another Stalker for sale, this time in San Jose. Asking $25000 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/5423796604.html Dutton B+ project. It may be back together now with an engine. Previous ads were confusing in this respect. Still not sure exactly how much work is needed but it asks $5500. No title. http://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/5396631120.html Locost project using 2.3L Mustang 4 cyl. $6000 http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5421693436.html Locost build $28000 http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5426782259.html 1974 Lotus 7 S4 $26500 in southern NJ. I was also in the filming of the LOG video and saw it in person - a good honest reliable driver. Quite a comfy car with that body. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5401477921.html 2016 Dax Rush seven replica kit asking $2700 http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5413276327.html Don't forget that Hemmings and ClassicCars.com also have more ads - usually advertised under "Caterham" or "Lotus 7".

Baby steps Bill, just baby steps! :seeya: