yellowss7 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I saw it Jeff. My Christmas gift list has a few other BIG ticket items that I didn't plan on. Springing that on the wife right now might not fly. I think she's thinking that the life insurance claim might be a better financial option. :jester: I do want to get a cage, and I really like Karl's design, just not as tall, and with a little more elbow room from the side impact bar as when I sat in Karl's, my elbow seemed to find it easily and I, like you have the S3 chassis not the Sumo Version like Karl's and Mike's. I installed the Tall FIA bar to get a little more head room and I'd definately order one that was as least that tall. I know that you probably could also use the extra height. Let's talk offline. PM me. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 If you want something customized you can reach out to Phil at Caged directly. His email is phil@cagedlaser.com. The pricing was reasonable, shipping was expensive (I think about $900 but don't quote me since mine came with a new chassis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I really liked Karls cage, easy to get into( After Karl showed me hows its done). And once in, I don't remember banging into it out on the track,no bruises the next day. The build quality is excellent, nice tig welds, nice bends. Its the safest I ever felt in a 7. And it has those killer Tillet seats, which fit me like a glove. Which is a nice feature for two guys well over 6 feet. It may be expensive, but your worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Steve, maybe you felt safe because we were going super slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Super slow in your 7, is warp speed in mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 First photos back from George Alderman. Fabricated using the existing rollbar. Finally a rear view mirror that's functional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubarisax Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Looks Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Great looking roll cage. I was told by the tech director of SCCA in Topeka, KS that all club racing roll cages must have the side bars, often referred to as the Nascar bars. But if you're not participating in SCCA club racing, who cars ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 No...not running SCCA. This is pretty much just a track car. The cage unbolts, so if someone wanted to further modify the car, it could be changed. But I have no plans to sell this car - there is really nothing that I (or Mary) would rather drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnr Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Great looking roll cage. I was told by the tech director of SCCA in Topeka, KS that all club racing roll cages must have the side bars, often referred to as the Nascar bars. But if you're not participating in SCCA club racing, who cars ? The car does have one side bar on each side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 The car does have one side bar on each side. Current GCR of the SCCA call for two side bars with a minimum of one vertical support/reinforcement. On the 7, it's tough to do. I've seen some of the cages made that may comply but I don't think I could get in or out of the car very easily. At my ripe old age of demanding comfort and avoiding complications, I'm not going down that road. However, I think JBH's cage is superbly designed to be safe yet useable and it may motivate me to copy. Imitation is the best form of flatery. I would even go so far that this design is the best I have yet seen, and the fact that it's removeable is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 No...not running SCCA. This is pretty much just a track car. The cage unbolts, so if someone wanted to further modify the car, it could be changed. But I have no plans to sell this car - there is really nothing that I (or Mary) would rather drive. When you say it unbolts, you mean the entire assembly including the previous roll bar ? Also, the two front bolts that appear to be run through the frame, are the holes provided with a backing plate by Caterham or did you just drill through the frame and run a bolt into it ? The more I look at your cage, but more I think I need the same thing. I would enjoy a little more roll over safety than the simple roll bar. With regards to the standard Caterham roll bar, I'm having to make another one since my long torso makes my head stick above the roll bar when wearing my helmet. I'm using 1.75" .095 wall tubing for the main roll bar, 1.25" .095 wall tubing for the cross and back bracing. It looks like you used the 1.75" for the front structure as well. Is that right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) You can see the side mounting hole in this picture - no modification to the frame necessary. Talk to George Alderman at Mid-Atlantic Caterham if you want to know more. He had a local guy fabricate and powder coat paint it. It turned out great Edited February 5, 2013 by JBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thanks, that is an excellent picture of the bung welded in there by the factory. The only problem with getting something from George is the freight from Mid-Atlantic to Florida would be too high. Likely I would have to drop the car off and leave it, then pick it up later. Now, I'm getting ready to start back up on the SEDIV TT events for the year. I'm making a new roll bar because of my torso length puts my helmet above the roll bar. Factory roll bar main hoop was 1.75" with 0.065" wall thickness. I'm using the same diameter but stepped up to 0.095 wall and made it 3" taller and duplicating everything else. Your car is very similar to mine. I can see the carbon fiber dash like mine. Too bad you don't live in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Klasik: Order the cage from Mid-Atlantic and then pick it up when you and your car join us for the annual usa7s gathering/track day event at NJMP this June 24-25:)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bball7754 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Mike - Is that the actual date for this years NJMP event? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Don't write that date in stone yet. I think Croc is trying to work out a deal that may give us other options. Right CROC? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Yes - I am trying for an alternative option to get more exclusivity to the sevens group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Thx. The date I used is the SCDA date. My court case calender fills up 3-4 months out (scheduling cases for May now) so wld be very helpful to know what the alternate dates mite be so I can block them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 I would love to go to NJMP & run with you guys.......but that's a 1200 mile ride one way. Although I did tell everyone that on June 1st I would kick back into near full retirement. My son is running our business but his kids are starting to be active in sports so he needs me to be there when he can't be, and, I feel guilty if I'm not working. Been working since I was 11, never been without a job ever since. Maybe something to consider, always wanted to run that track & VIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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