I don't know, after my little near disaster Wed. night I may never go out again. I came around a corner a little too fast and nearly t-boned a Mini. Squealing tires, steering wheel turned as far to the right as it could, and stopped about 4" from the drivers door. I could hear the driver say "WOW!" and he drove off. I about s*#t my pants. But the Se7en is safe. I was VERY lucky. I got to get some softer tires. Russ