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Interesting. I'd guess 0-death in under 10 seconds:).

TurboTom (1TurboFocus) is not a fan of E85 fuel as octane is so variable leading to engine failure, as here. Nonetheless, my mechanic really wants to convert my Zetec to E85 since compression is low enough that octane doesn't have to be 100+. Big advantage is E85 might be $2.00 a gallon and 100+ octane race gas is $14.00 a gallon.

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We are building another Storker with an LT4 engine. This is the stock engine that comes in a new C7 ZO6 Vett. It has 650 ft lbs of torque but the hp is only 650. We like the relibility of a stock power plant that runs on pump gas, after having continuing problems with a factory built cobra. The silver Storker has a stock LS7 that has been very reliable so far. Toyo R888s don't last very long but the car is amazingly fun to drive.

Gale

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We are building another Storker with an LT4 engine. This is the stock engine that comes in a new C7 ZO6 Vett. It has 650 ft lbs of torque but the hp is only 650. We like the relibility of a stock power plant that runs on pump gas, after having continuing problems with a factory built cobra. The silver Storker has a stock LS7 that has been very reliable so far. Toyo R888s don't last very long but the car is amazingly fun to drive.

Gale

 

Gale,

 

I am sure it will be even more amazing than your awesome LS7 powered toy. Do you intend to keep both cars?

 

Mike

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Interesting. I'd guess 0-death in under 10 seconds:).

TurboTom (1TurboFocus) is not a fan of E85 fuel as octane is so variable leading to engine failure, as here. Nonetheless, my mechanic really wants to convert my Zetec to E85 since compression is low enough that octane doesn't have to be 100+. Big advantage is E85 might be $2.00 a gallon and 100+ octane race gas is $14.00 a gallon.

 

Try your local small airport. 100LL avgas is about $5.00 a gallon. It's called 100 octane Low Lead, but the tetraethyl lead content is higher than 100 octane from the 1960's so you can use it to race, but not on a street car with a cat pack.

Dan

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NVP-interesting, I live close to a small airport so availability is not an issue. But, while I dont have a cat converter, I do have O2 sensors and I suspect they would suffer if I used LL aviation gas?

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Since one of the sensors goes upstream of the cat pack, I would *guess* that they are resistant to lead fouling. But check with the manufacturer on that. I ran 100LL in my 1980 grey market Mercedes 280E, but that car was designed to run on leaded gas.

Dan

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I was just down in FL visiting Scott and Glen and taking a tour of the facility, and Scott was talking about this car.

It's funny, I guess "fast" is relative, because he says LS1's don't even feel particularly fast to him any more. But if I remember correctly he got out of this car with enough of an adrenaline hit that he was dealing with a bit of the shakes.

 

I guess I don't really understand the point of so much power in a platform that isn't really known for it's aerodynamics.

If I was going for something to have fun at high speed it would be a vette, supra, rx7. Something that's been proven stable at high speed.

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I agree fast is a relative thing.

All this power in a car this light is a violent, visceral experience that is not for every one, but If you have the

'' bad gene", you become accustomed to or addicted to the adrenaline pretty quickly. I have a c7 zo6 also and it feels like a family car by comparison but it is still a great car. IMHO my Stalker feels a lot safer than the Vett. I think it has a lot to due with the level of feed back you get from the Stalker. It must be the same in most 7s. You are much more insulated in the Vett and as a result holding it on the edge of traction is more difficult. When i have lost a c5 or c6 Vett it was usually with little or no warning. Pushing the Stalker close to the edge gives you plenty of feel for where the edge is. Holding it on the edge is a great feeling. The new Vetts have so much traction control crap on them to make them safer for your wife.......then add an automatic trans and it's a very fast SUV. I still love it .....but there is little comparison to a seven.

In my worthless opinion.

Gale

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hey kitkat! I run 100LL in my xflow powered Super Seven racecar (11.5:1 compression). it's currently priced at $4.30 gal at New Garden Airport where I buy it in 5 gal portable gas tanks (usually about 30 gal at a time). I've been extremely happy with the 100LL -- it's always clean, and fresh, and has the ability to be very stable when left in a tank for a long time (some sort of preservatives in it for airplanes that sit). color of the plugs is great and easy starting and makes good power (160 hp at the flywheel on a good air day). my xflow is total old school; no oxy sensors; dual dcoe weber 40 carbs. 100LL will ruin a cat converter in fast order. its a bit hard on oxy sensors too (I have a wide band hand held tuner that I use occasionally; I used to use it on my honda civic racecar (b18b powered 11:1 comp fuel injected racecar that I ran 100LL in with the oem O2 disabled). if I left the wideband hooked up to it and raced it with the 100LL, the O2 sensor would start getting slow and lazy after about 20 hrs of use. time for a new O2 sensor (about $100).

 

i also use the 100LL in every small engine on my property (lawn mowers, chain saw, weed eater, snow blower). gone are all my issues with E10 wrecking the seals and carbs and gumming everything up. my snowblower can sit for a year and then starts right up on the first or second pull.

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I'll gladly trade my LS power for an extra 2k rpm and some grip.. I really love the car and having over 500bph, but the street tire thing an issue. The car is too light and r888 are still not soft enough and sidewalls have no give, making them a bit unpredictable anytime it's colder than say 80 outside. I've been using my 2 step launch control as poor man's traction control and keeping right on gas and left on brake, no need to shift these truck motors. Even with 3.08 gears I can still launch in 2nd and slip all the way to over 90mph, then 3rd to 120, 4th to 150 etc... To really make use of our LS power we need substantially more grip and aero and maybe another foot or so of wheelbase--then no longer a 7. 650 BPH motor and 300BPH worth of grip makes a drift car. It feels like I am going to take off over 130, and over 160 transition from gas to brake really wakes you up. Don't get me wrong, love this little sprint car, and could even see another 1-200 BPH for horsing around.

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I'll gladly trade my LS power for an extra 2k rpm and some grip.. I really love the car and having over 500bph, but the street tire thing an issue. The car is too light and r888 are still not soft enough and sidewalls have no give, making them a bit unpredictable anytime it's colder than say 80 outside. I've been using my 2 step launch control as poor man's traction control and keeping right on gas and left on brake, no need to shift these truck motors. Even with 3.08 gears I can still launch in 2nd and slip all the way to over 90mph, then 3rd to 120, 4th to 150 etc... To really make use of our LS power we need substantially more grip and aero and maybe another foot or so of wheelbase--then no longer a 7. 650 BPH motor and 300BPH worth of grip makes a drift car. It feels like I am going to take off over 130, and over 160 transition from gas to brake really wakes you up. Don't get me wrong, love this little sprint car, and could even see another 1-200 BPH for horsing around.

 

Wow.

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It feels like I am going to take off over 130, and over 160 transition from gas to brake really wakes you up. Don't get me wrong, love this little sprint car, and could even see another 1-200 BPH for horsing around.

 

:willy_nilly: That puts hair on the chest just reading about it! Another 100-200 to just horse around? :ack:

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Is a "normal" 480HP Stalker even controllable ?

I used to race Formula Mazda's

I'm interested in a Seven but was thinking 250 HP would be more realistically manageable.

My 996 GT2 puts out 500 HP and it can be a handful.

That power in a car less than half the weight...now add 250HP. Don't know if that sounds like fun or a trip to the morgue.

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The more the better. I would love to drive a GT2 or Formula Mazda--want to trade?

 

 

The car is light with a ton of weigh centered (180lb transmission), so is much easier to drive than say a corvette or porker with their driving aids off.

 

The V8 torque just makes the speed easy, but takes away from some of the fun in the twisty stuff. I think it would be more fun if we could get peaky 300-350 BPH in something that revved freely, required lots of shifting to stay in the power, is 400lbs lighter, with smaller softer tires. Right now I just leave in 3rd gear, play cat and mouse with corvettes and lotus elise without ever shifting, with the big motor just chugging along no fuss. If I am full tilt, sounding like a beast, I am going straight or and making lots of tire smoke.

 

 

 

 

Is a "normal" 480HP Stalker even controllable ?

I used to race Formula Mazda's

I'm interested in a Seven but was thinking 250 HP would be more realistically manageable.

My 996 GT2 puts out 500 HP and it can be a handful.

That power in a car less than half the weight...now add 250HP. Don't know if that sounds like fun or a trip to the morgue.

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