yellowss7 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 A friend of mine is close to buying a new 997. His trade in is a pristine 2002 996 with 4400 miles on it. It's in my garage right now.:party: It still smells new. :shocked: Its got over $20K in options on it and is spotless. I think he's nuts to buy a new one. I wouldn't normally even look at a Porker, but this car is like NEW. I just put about 100 miles on it, (boy is he gonna be pissed ) He's made me a pretty reasonable offer to buy. It's not as quick, and has alot more body roll than the Caterham, and the gear lever has alot longer throw than the 7. But it is impossible to buy a car this nice for this amount of money. All Right, talk me into or out of it. Discuss. :willy: :willy: :willy: Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pksurveyor Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Buy the Porsche, it is a different type of driving experience as you can get from a Seven. The sound of the flat six is fantastic. When I bought the Caterham in 2004, I also have a Porsche 911 and a Lotus Esprit V-8 in the garage. The Porsche is the most comfortable for longer trips and it is easier to drive quick than the Esprit. Of course for pure fun, the Caterham is the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 If you've got the money burning a hole in your pocket, I say buy one of those Hartley V8s for the Caterham.... Of course, you can't get a car loan for just an engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Al, my seven is more powerful than I can handle, so no need need for me to chase bigger and more powerful motor variants. After 7 years in it, I'm still learning how to drive. PK yeah, the Porsche was a whole lot more civilized and certainly would get more exercise than the 7. Now can I get a set of golf clubs in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N. Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 probably not a staff bag....a smaller softer one, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Don't worry Al, the Seven still has the place of honor in the garage. I plan on buying a lift to put the seven in the air and the porker under it. It will just have a higher place of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 what was my advice, i forgot. if the price is right, it a no brainer. it'll see more asphalt than the 7 and u'll enjoy it. are u driving the 7 to work? the 911 u can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Jon, don't go using 4 letter words like that around me. :cuss: I stopped that nonsense years ago. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxologist Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 perfect, so u need something to fill up the leisure time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Given that you have a se7en, you should drive a 993 before you pull the trigger. The 996 is faster, roomier, quieter, has much better ergonomics, ventilation, and features, yet the 993 is a more visceral experience that I find more satisfying. The 993 community tends to knock the 996 because of the driving experience (it's often referred to as Lexus-like), while the 996 community tends to knock the 993 as outdated and slower. They are both right ;-) After driving examples of each model I bought the air cooled car and have no regrets. Fell free to PM me if you want info on the 993. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Budlite Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Hi Tom, I have a friend who's passionate about 911's and has owned a 2005 997 Carrera S, a couple 964's, a Euro market 930, a Carrera, and a couple of SC's. I ended up getting involved with 911's because of him, and just recently bought a 1989 Carrera (non-964) that needs a clutch and top-end work. I've driven his 997 at a PCA DE at Watkins Glen and it was an awesome drive...very fast, handled great, easy to drive, and very smooth and comfortable. I've also done some long distance drives in them, and they can cover a lot of distance, very quickly, and very comfortably. The 996 models are very much like the 997's but most people prefer the look of the 997. Most of the die-hard 911 addicts like the air-cooled cars for the reasons John stated above. The 993's are the last of the air-cooled cars and are absolutely beautiful!! My buddy ended up selling his 997 because he liked the raw feel of the earlier models, and picked up a 78 SC for PCA G-stock racing and a Euro 930 Turbo hot rod. Most people recommend getting a pre-purchase inspection before buying any 911, but with only 4400 miles on it, the one you're looking at should be like new. I think I remember something about the water-cooled cars having problems with RMS (rear main seal) leaks, so check into that too. If you have any questions or want to do some research, check out: http://forums.rennlist.com/menu/content.htm or http://www.pelicanparts.com/index.htm. The amount of readily available parts and expertise is unbelievable in the 911 world.....at a price of course!!! Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Porsches are great cars - why wouldn't you want one? If you can get it at a decent price, drive it, enjoy it and then sell it in a year or two. P-cars hold their value well after they go through that first phase of depreciation, so it could be a fun way to try out the car at a pretty reasonable cost. I have driven n/a and turbos on the track for almost 15 years. They are a different, but very rewarding driving experience that will expand your skills and experience level. In the hands of a good driver, they are exceptionally fast. There is a large support base for these cars - clubs, forums, aftermarket suppliers, etc. There is no other marque that even comes close to what is available to Porsche owners. Obviously, I say go for it. Here's mine - a very trick 964 Turbo in Coral Red http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1350388672_Turbo Reduced.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Tom, As a fan of early 911's, thanks to our friend Vern. Seems like a nice one,and it's already in the garage. You only live once and I plan on getting one some day. Go for it , Steve Novelli:thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Thanks guys. My other option is another kit car. I believe, Red Baron has on of these. Although my wife has said I can't build another car.:ack: Here's a couple of pics. http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1337178416_SCF_XJ13_7.jpg and the Porker http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1836884388_PB300242.JPG http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/369416871_PB300244.JPG http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/329530894_PB300243.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 One more Porsche advantage to add: safety. Your chances of surviving a crash is probably 10- 20 times greater in the Porsche compared to a Seven or kitcar. I am certain this will be disputed by others, but statistics say a motorcyclist is 35 times more likely to die in a vehicular crash. Given the Seven or kitcar has marginally better protection, chances for survival may be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Another kit car? What about a Noble? You can get barely used ones for mid 60's-mid 80's and they will run circles around the Porsche. It sounds like you have gotten a great price. Last weekend I looked at the same /model/year/mileage car at a Porsche dealer's lot that was advertised at $54K, and I am sure they would deal . Given that a comparable new 911 is $90K, it's tempting. Since you aren't talking about selling the Seven, that makes it easier. But to my eyes, there is something un-inspirational, even bland, about that model. If I were going to buy a lightly used Porsche, I would get a Cayman S. However, given the price advantage you seem to have (probably what the Porsche dealer has offered in trade) I might end up with the friend's car too. I wish I had this problem:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Kitcat you are right on. Yeah I like the Noble, but the seven has satisfied my need for speed and handling. The Porsche would be a 10 month a year car. How does $41K sound for a sale price? The replacement that he's looking at has a sticker of $112K. (A 4S coupe) He just took the car back (and he did notice that I put almost 100 miles on it):cuss: It's not a done deal yet as he still is waffling between a Cab or a coupe. Yeah, the silver and black is bland. (I would prefer Speed Yellow myself) :d And I agree with you about the Cayman, I think it looks better than the 911. It's just a good price for an almost new car. What could I get for $40K new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soareyes Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 How does $41K sound for a sale price? Sounds like I need his phone number if you don't want the car! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurath Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Buy it, enjoy it. Later, if it doesn't turn you on anymore, at that price you could sell it later and lose little to nothing. Or it would make a very nice trade. I loved the 924's, 944's, one 928s4 and one 911 sc while we were in Germany. Though i preferred the 928 which was deceivingly fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowss7 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 How this for a compromise? The New GT 7 :d http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1625574243_caterham_gt3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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