speedwagon Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Re. the S-1 Wasn't able to see but the one picture, and didn"t see the scratches. But the car looks all intact and maybe upgraded coil-overs. got mine about 15 years ago for 16K, it had been auto-crossed hard and put away wet, had a worn rotary that cost far less than the normal z-tech to put in. They are a very comfortable car with good handling. And would make a very good daily driver. I have put over 800 miles on mine in one day and still was comfortable. To me the price is almost tempting as a replacement, keeping mine as either parts or backup. Suggest pursuing the owner. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfun Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cueball1 said: That new s1 looks interesting and priced well. Seller is not responding to questions though and I don't see a way to contact them directly. Would love more facts vs the editorial feeling of the ad. Some pics show a huge number of weird scratches in the hood too. I agree,the car is priced very well. It did not come stock with a lsd,only an open diff. Horsepower stock was around 140,still this is a great driving 7 (I have an S1 and have had many 7 style cars over the years),the sellers lack of responses-maybe he doesn't know the answers will hurt his auction outcome. Again though that is alot of car for the money.... Edited December 18, 2022 by spitfun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueball1 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Spitfun, secretly hoping your fantastic S1 will be hitting the market again someday! Edited December 18, 2022 by Cueball1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 12 hours ago, spitfun said: I agree,the car is priced very well. It did not come stock with a lsd,only an open diff. Horsepower stock was around 140,still this is a great driving 7 (I have an S1 and have had many 7 style cars over the years),the sellers lack of responses-maybe he doesn't know the answers will hurt his auction outcome. Again though that is alot of car for the money.... I've seen scratches like found on the hood before on a friends Cobra replica where he went under a chain-link fence (not intentionally). Looking at the pictures, what scares me the most, is the right front lower control arm, it appears to be cracked (see attached) . Or am I seeing something that only appears to be a crack? Bill S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car_Guy Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, mrmustang said: I've seen scratches like found on the hood before on a friends Cobra replica where he went under a chain-link fence (not intentionally). Looking at the pictures, what scares me the most, is the right front lower control arm, it appears to be cracked (see attached) . Or am I seeing something that only appears to be a crack? Bill S. Not sure what you are seeing as a "crack" looks like there is a clear protective film on the forward face to avoid chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfun Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I believe mrmustang is correct,that looks like a crack to me. The seller should take some pics of that at different angles and look underneath to see exactly what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfun Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) I looked at some pictures of my S1 (the car is in storage) and I have those weld seams also (although mine look smooth not jagged like the sellers car),they appear to be a tube welded into a larger tube but I can't look at my car right now to confirm this-I will try to go by and take a closeup picture of mine tomorrow... Edited December 19, 2022 by spitfun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueball1 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Looking at the picture of the front of the car, if that's a crack it's identical on both sides. Seems unlikely but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueball1 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Not sure what happened to the pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueball1 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfun Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I believe Cueball1 is correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 I have just looked up photos I have of other S1's and they all have a join/weld/something in that location on both sides. Looks unusual enough I would be asking for a clearer pic/explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Was looking at the pics on my phone, sure looked like a crack, but seeing the larger picture on my laptop this AM, it does appear to be a welded tubing. Thanks for the extra set of eyes. As far as price goes, at 15K, without knowing whether the car comes with the convertible top or not, the seller should take the money and run. Bill S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV8 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Looks like they used thinner wall tube to keep the weight down then fit thicker wall ends to accept threads. They even scalloped the thin tube ends so it would be less likely to crack at the welds. The best way to do it imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwagon Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, MV8 said: Looks like they used thinner wall tube to keep the weight down then fit thicker wall ends to accept threads. They even scalloped the thin tube ends so it would be less likely to crack at the welds. The best way to do it imho. It is the way they were built. Well accepted practice. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwagon Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 The cars are well built, mine has been both ways over the 75 miles of the "Burr Trail" at speed. My only complaints are- no foot room -- the front fender attachment is for crap-- and superformance has created an orphan of them-- and parts sources are non existent. For the driver-- well balanced and quite forgiving and not fatiguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) It’s a slip joint with scalloped ends to prevent shear… There’s also protective film that is 20 years old and cracking… Edited December 19, 2022 by S1Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Lotus 7 S2 on Bringatrailer 1967 Lotus Super Seven for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 29 (Lot #94,578) | Bring a Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduril3019 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Here's a nice little project for some brave soul. Looks like an early Series 2 with drum brakes up front. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/7572270477.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV8 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 hours ago, anduril3019 said: Here's a nice little project for some brave soul. Looks like an early Series 2 with drum brakes up front. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/7572270477.html Looks like it's all there but awfully expensive for a basket case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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